Detecting language using up to the first 30 seconds. Use `--language` to specify the language Detected language: English [00:00.000 --> 00:04.320] Warning, the following show contains explicit language. [00:04.320 --> 00:08.400] Certain people should not listen to this show, such as children and panty waste adults who [00:08.400 --> 00:15.680] cry like 12-year-old little girls when they hear profanity. [00:15.680 --> 00:16.680] Welcome back, my friends. [00:16.680 --> 00:24.160] I'm Dave Champion, and today I want to talk about a topic that supposedly affects a lot [00:24.160 --> 00:28.560] of men in the United States, and that is gynecomastia. [00:28.560 --> 00:32.400] I want to give you a brief description of what gynecomastia is, and then I want to tell [00:32.400 --> 00:36.000] you my personal story about it. [00:36.000 --> 00:41.480] Gynecomastia is a condition in which male breast tissue enlarges. [00:41.480 --> 00:44.860] We're not talking about the muscle under the breast tissue. [00:44.860 --> 00:50.840] We're talking about the tissue that sits on top of the pectoral muscles. [00:50.840 --> 00:56.460] For a reason I'll get into in a moment, that flesh becomes more abundant, and then there [00:56.460 --> 00:58.860] can be multiple manifestations of that. [00:58.860 --> 01:00.620] You can have the nipple poking out. [01:00.620 --> 01:02.980] You can have a saggy breast. [01:02.980 --> 01:06.340] You can have pretty significant enlargement. [01:06.340 --> 01:12.420] It's said that 70% of men in the United States either have had gynecomastia at some point [01:12.420 --> 01:15.300] or suffer with it right now today. [01:15.300 --> 01:19.460] Figures are not precise, but that's what's generally bandied about. [01:19.460 --> 01:23.740] My tale begins back in 1999. [01:23.820 --> 01:27.100] I would have been 40 years old, and I have to start with sort of an ironic note, and [01:27.100 --> 01:29.540] you'll see why it's ironic as we get through the story. [01:29.540 --> 01:37.900] I'd been in the gym since I was, I don't know, 24, five to seven days a week, every week [01:37.900 --> 01:39.900] from age 24. [01:39.900 --> 01:41.980] When this all went down, I was 40. [01:41.980 --> 01:47.500] Now, during the time I was in the gym, oftentimes I would see young guys, they just have an [01:47.500 --> 01:48.940] average young guy body. [01:48.940 --> 01:54.660] In over like 90 to 120 days, they'd become very Arnold Schwarzenegger-like. [01:54.660 --> 01:58.300] It was very obvious that they were juicing, using steroids. [01:58.300 --> 02:01.380] Most often, young guys, they do testosterone. [02:01.380 --> 02:04.820] Time and again, I had people say to me at the gym, man, Dave, you work hard. [02:04.820 --> 02:05.820] You've got a great body. [02:05.820 --> 02:07.340] Why don't you capitalize on that? [02:07.340 --> 02:11.420] Why don't you maximize your work by taking some testosterone? [02:11.420 --> 02:14.020] I always said, absolutely not. [02:14.020 --> 02:19.820] The reason is if you take testosterone, enough of it, long enough, I didn't have any interest [02:19.820 --> 02:24.420] in any of it for any period of time, but physiologically speaking, if you take enough of it for long [02:24.420 --> 02:29.260] enough, you can degrade your body's ability to make its own testosterone. [02:29.260 --> 02:31.860] A lot of people think that has something to do with the testes. [02:31.860 --> 02:35.620] Testes play a role, but really, it's the biofeedback cycle between the part of the brain that signals [02:35.620 --> 02:40.900] the testes to create testosterone, and that signaling process, that part of the brain [02:40.900 --> 02:46.180] that does that signaling is degraded when you put, to make it simple, the way I phrase [02:46.180 --> 02:51.940] it for people, you take outside testosterone and put it inside you, and yeah, it screws [02:51.940 --> 02:57.180] up that feedback cycle, and it can, in time, in sufficient quantities, cause your body [02:57.180 --> 03:00.820] to stop producing or diminish its production of testosterone. [03:00.820 --> 03:02.940] I had no interest in that, right? [03:02.940 --> 03:04.300] I was having a great time at the gym. [03:04.300 --> 03:05.300] I looked good. [03:05.300 --> 03:09.100] I lived in California, in LA at the time, where they have real, I live in Perot now. [03:09.100 --> 03:11.220] I was in LA where they had real gyms. [03:11.220 --> 03:15.660] I was a member of three gyms at a time, and I was in the gym every single night for two [03:15.660 --> 03:18.060] or three hours, and I was yoked, okay? [03:18.060 --> 03:22.740] So I didn't have any need or interest in supplementing testosterone. [03:22.740 --> 03:28.140] So I get to the age of 40, and I went to see a doctor I had, I think it was a sinus infection. [03:28.140 --> 03:31.780] It's hard for me to remember all those years ago, but I believe it was a sinus infection. [03:31.780 --> 03:35.100] So I went to an urgent care that was part of the FACI medical group through whom I had [03:35.100 --> 03:38.820] my medical insurance at that time, or with whom I was getting service under my medical [03:38.820 --> 03:40.500] policy at that time. [03:40.500 --> 03:46.660] And so this doctor who was kind of weird, he said, well, because people are building [03:46.660 --> 03:52.980] up tolerances and resistance to modern antibiotics, I'm going to give you something old school. [03:52.980 --> 03:58.680] So he gave me powdered sulfur, which I knew nothing about back then, right? [03:58.680 --> 03:59.680] So I go home. [03:59.680 --> 04:00.680] I take the powdered sulfur. [04:00.680 --> 04:06.400] Ten days later, I'm taking a walk with my then-girlfriend, right? [04:06.400 --> 04:11.160] And I can tell you the exact moment when the consequences hit and when this whole nightmare [04:11.160 --> 04:12.160] began. [04:12.160 --> 04:20.480] I was walking up a gentle grade, maybe about 8% grade with my then-girlfriend, little embarrassing. [04:20.480 --> 04:27.480] And suddenly, as I'm going up the hill, about every step I take, I'm passing wind. [04:27.740 --> 04:28.740] I'm walking. [04:28.740 --> 04:33.220] It's like, what the hell? [04:33.220 --> 04:37.340] OK, so I get back to the house and it doesn't stop, right? [04:37.340 --> 04:38.860] The gas is just going on and on. [04:38.860 --> 04:40.340] I lived in a two-story at that time. [04:40.340 --> 04:44.900] And as I'm going up the stairs, yeah, so not cool. [04:44.900 --> 04:48.640] A couple days go by and it doesn't resolve itself. [04:48.640 --> 04:55.840] So I go to see my primary care physician at FACI medical group. [04:55.840 --> 05:00.200] So then starts a two-year drama. [05:00.200 --> 05:04.280] Now, I'm not going to share with you what I believe the powdered sulfur did and why [05:04.280 --> 05:05.280] it did it. [05:05.280 --> 05:08.800] And that's a whole long, lengthy thing that would be here a very long time. [05:08.800 --> 05:14.060] But I will tell you, I became ill. [05:14.060 --> 05:20.220] With some malady, the medical community over a little bit more than a two-year period could [05:20.220 --> 05:21.220] not diagnose. [05:21.220 --> 05:23.740] And I'll tell you how nuts this was. [05:23.740 --> 05:30.520] At one point, my primary care physician sent me on a referral to two different specialists. [05:30.520 --> 05:36.440] Both of them, by the way, are in the book 500 Best Doctors in America, something like [05:36.440 --> 05:37.440] that. [05:37.440 --> 05:38.920] I've been quite a few years. [05:38.920 --> 05:42.580] And so I go to see the one and I go to see the other. [05:42.580 --> 05:46.460] They both submit reports to my primary care physician. [05:46.460 --> 05:51.160] Their reports were diametrically opposed. [05:51.160 --> 05:53.280] Same area of specialty. [05:53.280 --> 05:56.740] Both of them in the book 500 Best Doctors in America. [05:56.740 --> 05:59.940] And they completely disagreed on what was going on. [05:59.940 --> 06:03.220] So that tells you how insane this whole thing was. [06:03.220 --> 06:04.220] All right. [06:04.220 --> 06:08.300] So on to the gynecomastia part of the story. [06:08.300 --> 06:12.660] I've probably had this malady about a year, maybe a little bit less. [06:12.660 --> 06:16.060] And I notice that my nipples are tender. [06:16.060 --> 06:18.780] I'm like, what the fuck is that about? [06:18.780 --> 06:23.100] By the way, I should tell you, by a year into this thing I had gone, I could still tell [06:23.100 --> 06:27.080] you this is the part, the sixth in my mind, the day that I started that getting that crazy [06:27.080 --> 06:30.200] gas while walking up the hill, I weighed 223 pounds. [06:30.200 --> 06:35.080] By the time this story kicks in, what I'm telling you, I was over 300 pounds. [06:35.080 --> 06:36.080] That's what this illness had done to me. [06:36.080 --> 06:38.080] I couldn't hear what you said. [06:38.080 --> 06:39.080] Stop. [06:39.080 --> 06:40.080] Sorry. [06:40.080 --> 06:41.080] Siri. [06:41.080 --> 06:42.520] So that's how crazy this was. [06:42.520 --> 06:47.680] This is how destructive whatever this thing was, it was going on with my body. [06:47.680 --> 06:51.480] But suddenly, and I'm still going to the gym to the best of my ability at that time. [06:52.060 --> 06:59.380] But I'm this big Jabba the Hutt thing, really, really bad, right? [06:59.380 --> 07:05.140] And so I go to my primary care and I'm like, hey, my nipples are tender. [07:05.140 --> 07:06.400] What's going on, man? [07:06.400 --> 07:07.400] So he feels around. [07:07.400 --> 07:13.340] Now, I've been in the gym for like, what, 20 years at that point? [07:13.340 --> 07:14.960] So close to that, 16 years. [07:14.960 --> 07:19.160] So I've heard a lot of stories about tender breast tissue. [07:19.160 --> 07:22.500] So I'm thinking, OK, he's going to send me down for testosterone test. [07:22.500 --> 07:31.180] No, he tells me it's just that my glands seem to be irritated or plugged bilaterally on [07:31.180 --> 07:32.820] both sides at the same exact moment. [07:32.820 --> 07:33.820] Really? [07:33.820 --> 07:36.180] Nevertheless, he says, no, I'm not going to send you down for testosterone test. [07:36.180 --> 07:38.180] So on we go for this thing. [07:38.180 --> 07:42.820] Weeks and weeks and weeks turn into months, right? [07:42.820 --> 07:47.940] So finally, he's on vacation and I stop in for a routine appointment, but he's not there. [07:47.940 --> 07:53.720] So I see this doctor who's like, crazy, like 6'5", and he's a Chinese immigrant, right? [07:53.720 --> 07:55.440] So how many Chinese people are 6'5", right? [07:55.440 --> 07:56.960] So it stands out in my mind. [07:56.960 --> 07:58.960] Very heavy Chinese accent. [07:58.960 --> 08:04.740] I walk into the exam room and we shake hands and he looks at my file, which is like two [08:04.740 --> 08:06.520] inches thick. [08:06.520 --> 08:10.600] And I can see the look on his face, like, this is a 40-year-old guy, yeah, he's overweight, [08:10.600 --> 08:11.600] but what's this? [08:11.600 --> 08:15.580] I could almost read his mind as he sees this look on his face as he's looking at the file. [08:15.580 --> 08:18.420] And so he says, do you have a minute for me to go through your file? [08:18.420 --> 08:20.200] Sure, my time is your time, doc. [08:20.200 --> 08:24.540] So he starts going through the file and about six or seven minutes later, we're sitting [08:24.540 --> 08:25.540] there in silence. [08:25.540 --> 08:29.560] So six or seven minutes in silence with the strangers a long time. [08:29.560 --> 08:32.560] And he finally says, I'm concerned. [08:32.560 --> 08:36.580] I'm like, yeah, okay, so good, me too. [08:36.580 --> 08:39.760] Finally I'm talking to somebody who has the same concerns I do. [08:39.760 --> 08:46.080] He says, I don't mean to be dramatic, but if we don't determine what's wrong with you, [08:46.080 --> 08:50.300] this could go further downhill and place your life at risk, which I thought was terribly [08:50.300 --> 08:51.300] forthcoming. [08:51.300 --> 08:53.220] I was like, yes, somebody who feels the same way I do. [08:53.220 --> 08:57.200] Seemed like various systems in my body were not shutting down, but they weren't operating [08:57.200 --> 08:58.200] correctly. [08:58.200 --> 09:02.660] And you can deal with one system not operating very well, but when you start to get into [09:02.660 --> 09:08.600] multiple systems breaking down, yeah, that can turn the corner and get ugly really fast. [09:08.600 --> 09:10.660] So he had the same concerns that I do. [09:10.660 --> 09:14.920] On the testosterone issue, he said, do you have time to go downstairs at a lab, like [09:14.920 --> 09:15.920] one story down? [09:15.920 --> 09:19.520] And he said, do you have time to go downstairs and get a testosterone test? [09:19.520 --> 09:21.080] I'm like, hell yeah. [09:21.080 --> 09:25.080] So I said, when do you want to see me again to go over it? [09:25.080 --> 09:27.640] He says, you know, do you have the time to come back in about three hours? [09:27.640 --> 09:28.640] Hell yeah. [09:28.640 --> 09:29.640] Right, okay. [09:29.640 --> 09:34.520] I go downstairs, I get the test, go out and have some lunch, do some errands, come back. [09:34.520 --> 09:38.680] And he says, and again, it's odd what sticks in my mind 20 years later. [09:38.680 --> 09:44.320] He says, your testosterone count is 142. [09:44.320 --> 09:48.720] You have less testosterone in your body than the average 12 year old boy. [09:48.720 --> 09:52.000] Okay, so I knew this all along. [09:52.000 --> 09:56.880] Thankfully, I ran into a doctor who did not have his head up his rear end like my primary [09:56.880 --> 09:58.300] care physician. [09:58.300 --> 10:01.000] But by then, the damage was done. [10:01.000 --> 10:03.680] I had gynecomastia. [10:03.680 --> 10:09.760] This story gets even nuttier with a particular doctor at the FACI Medical Group doing a test [10:09.760 --> 10:10.760] on me. [10:10.760 --> 10:15.020] What I believe was falsifying the results and then getting rid of the images that would [10:15.020 --> 10:18.280] prove he falsified the report, yeah, it's just really ugly. [10:18.280 --> 10:23.360] And then I reached out, I wrote a letter to FACI and I said, look, you know, if my primary [10:23.360 --> 10:27.660] care physician who is your employee had done the right thing concerning the tenderness [10:27.660 --> 10:31.320] in my breasts, I wouldn't have gynecomastia now. [10:31.320 --> 10:38.240] If this other fellow, this gastroenterologist, if he had not gotten rid of the photographs, [10:38.240 --> 10:42.040] the digital images that were created when he was performing the test, I think we would [10:42.040 --> 10:47.460] have found that it was a different outcome than what his submitted report stated. [10:47.460 --> 10:52.800] So what I'm asking you to do is I would like you, FACI Medical Group in Valencia, California, [10:52.800 --> 10:55.160] to pay for the surgery to correct my gynecomastia. [10:55.160 --> 10:58.180] They were back and said, nope, not interested. [10:58.180 --> 11:00.200] You can't prove it's us. [11:01.000 --> 11:06.360] It probably would have, in terms of the money they were making back then, probably gajillion [11:06.360 --> 11:13.200] times more now, it would have cost them literally pennies to accept responsibility for the failures [11:13.200 --> 11:15.400] of their employees and to fix me. [11:15.400 --> 11:16.400] But they didn't. [11:16.400 --> 11:18.880] And in California, it's virtually impossible to sue a medical group. [11:18.880 --> 11:20.600] But that's a whole other discussion. [11:20.600 --> 11:29.320] So the upshot of this is from about 2000 through, well, for the next 20 plus years, I just lived [11:29.400 --> 11:31.400] with having gynecomastia. [11:31.400 --> 11:36.200] I went and saw a friend of mine who's a plastic surgeon, and I said to him, can you do something [11:36.200 --> 11:37.200] about this? [11:37.200 --> 11:38.200] He said, I can. [11:38.200 --> 11:41.680] He said, but let me share with you where I'm at on this. [11:41.680 --> 11:45.360] He said, first of all, here's the price tag, which was shockingly high. [11:45.360 --> 11:47.320] But he was a big money guy. [11:47.320 --> 11:49.760] He did a lot of work for some very well-known names. [11:49.760 --> 11:51.760] So I was like, wow. [11:51.760 --> 11:54.840] And then he said, there's no way to do it without scarring. [11:54.840 --> 11:55.840] So you're going to have scars. [11:55.840 --> 12:00.520] You're like 40 or 41 now, Dave, and you're going to have scars for the rest of your life. [12:00.520 --> 12:01.960] OK. [12:01.960 --> 12:05.600] So I don't think the scars really were the big issue for me. [12:05.600 --> 12:13.440] The price tag was, I think, if I remember correctly from him to do bilateral, both breasts, [12:13.440 --> 12:16.320] there's a lot of cutting and stitching, so to speak. [12:16.320 --> 12:17.600] I think it was 12 grand. [12:17.600 --> 12:18.600] OK. [12:18.600 --> 12:22.120] We're talking whatever that is, 2000 money, 2001 money. [12:22.120 --> 12:24.840] Now before I get into more recent occurrences, I do want to comment. [12:24.840 --> 12:30.720] There's something called pseudo gynecomastia, which is simply being overweight. [12:30.720 --> 12:37.360] So the breasts are fatty, like the rest of the torso when somebody's seriously overweight. [12:37.360 --> 12:39.840] That's not really gynecomastia. [12:39.840 --> 12:43.040] I should also probably take a little left turn here for a moment and talk about what [12:43.040 --> 12:44.040] causes gynecomastia. [12:44.040 --> 12:45.960] I meant to do this at the front end and forgot. [12:45.960 --> 12:51.800] The mechanism internally, physiologically, the exact mechanism is unknown to science. [12:51.800 --> 12:55.640] The only time you can talk about things that where you don't understand the mechanism [12:55.640 --> 12:59.960] has been COVID-19 for the last, or SARS-CoV-2, for the last year. [12:59.960 --> 13:00.960] Yeah. [13:00.960 --> 13:04.180] Researchers can say anything they want without truly understanding the mechanism. [13:04.180 --> 13:08.880] But in real science, when there's no political motivation, you have to recognize or be able [13:08.880 --> 13:15.160] to point to, with some credibility, the mechanism of how this gets there. [13:15.160 --> 13:16.560] That does not exist in gynecomastia. [13:16.560 --> 13:21.120] The presumption is, which I think is pretty solid based on just real world experience, [13:21.120 --> 13:26.640] the presumption is when your testosterone is low but your estrogen remains at normal. [13:26.640 --> 13:31.380] So for a man, testosterone normally is up here, estrogen is here. [13:31.380 --> 13:35.220] So what happens is if the estrogen remains but the testosterone drops, now you've got [13:35.220 --> 13:38.000] the estrogen is now dominant. [13:38.000 --> 13:42.880] And it is presumed, again, science doesn't really can't point to the exact mechanism, [13:42.880 --> 13:47.960] but it is presumed, and millions and millions and millions and millions and millions of patients, [13:47.960 --> 13:53.400] the pattern would confirm that what it is is that the estrogen remains stable while [13:53.400 --> 13:57.880] the testosterone drops below or for whatever reason, estrogen increases, but it is an imbalance [13:57.880 --> 13:59.960] between estrogen and testosterone. [13:59.960 --> 14:00.960] Okay. [14:00.960 --> 14:05.020] So with all of that said, what's going on with me now? [14:05.020 --> 14:07.580] Why am I choosing to talk about this today? [14:07.580 --> 14:11.720] There was a time just before I learned, I started getting into physiology and started [14:11.720 --> 14:16.960] learning about what ketosis is, there was a time I was insulin resistant, though I couldn't [14:16.960 --> 14:21.920] have told you that at the time, and I was getting heavier and heavier and heavier and [14:21.920 --> 14:25.560] I couldn't understand why, because I didn't know I was insulin resistant. [14:25.560 --> 14:29.760] And I certainly, almost certainly, would have eventually become obese. [14:29.760 --> 14:34.920] And when you add the weight that I had on me at that time to the gynecomastia tissue, [14:34.920 --> 14:40.280] yeah, it was not flattering, the appearance was not good, it started to have that old [14:40.280 --> 14:46.000] man flabby boob look thing, which totally was not doing it for me, because I spent my [14:46.040 --> 14:49.760] whole life, like I said, from 24, in the gym five to seven days a week, two to three hours [14:49.760 --> 14:50.760] a day. [14:50.760 --> 14:55.320] And I had a pretty rockin' bot up until this whole weird thing went down, right? [14:55.320 --> 15:00.840] But ever since then, since I said like 2000, 2001, yeah, I'd live with this gynecomastia, [15:00.840 --> 15:03.200] which was embarrassing as fuck. [15:03.200 --> 15:07.320] So you put on a tight shirt, the rest of you looks good, what the fuck is that right there? [15:07.320 --> 15:09.200] So yeah, not cool. [15:09.200 --> 15:13.660] More than three years ago, I began living in ketosis. [15:14.580 --> 15:21.580] My body has existed in ketosis every single day for more than three years now. [15:21.580 --> 15:26.780] And I'd wondered at the outset whether, I probably thought about it back at the very [15:26.780 --> 15:32.780] beginning, whether the keto diet would resolve my gynecomastia. [15:32.780 --> 15:38.200] And then when I realized shortly after getting into the keto eating style, that it wasn't [15:38.200 --> 15:39.740] really that that mattered. [15:39.740 --> 15:46.100] It was the living in ketosis, day in and day out, 24, seven, 365 days a year. [15:46.100 --> 15:47.780] That's the part that really mattered. [15:47.780 --> 15:51.860] It doesn't matter how you get there, what style, which one to call the style of eating [15:51.860 --> 15:56.660] you're practicing is as long as you keep your body in ketosis, 24 hours a day, 365 days [15:56.660 --> 16:00.300] a year, the health benefits will keep amplifying. [16:00.300 --> 16:05.300] I'm more than three years into it and they're continuing to manifest themselves for me. [16:05.300 --> 16:07.460] So back to the gynecomastia issue. [16:07.460 --> 16:12.300] I dropped 60 pounds, first of all, I should say, in the first six months or five months [16:12.300 --> 16:14.860] that I was in ketosis, which is pretty dramatic. [16:14.860 --> 16:17.620] Again, I'm not going to get into that whole story. [16:17.620 --> 16:18.780] We'd be here a very long time. [16:18.780 --> 16:23.200] But suffice to say, whatever the effects of the gynecomastia, they're amplified when you [16:23.200 --> 16:24.540] put a bunch of body fat on. [16:24.540 --> 16:30.460] So it was somewhat less apparent once I lost all the extra weight. [16:30.460 --> 16:33.020] Now the part I really want to talk about is this. [16:33.020 --> 16:37.540] About 15 months ago, I switched to carnivore, again, keeping my body, the carnivore style [16:37.540 --> 16:42.780] of eating, keeping my body in ketosis, 24 hours a day, 365 days a year, but just simply [16:42.780 --> 16:45.380] eating a different style of consumption. [16:45.380 --> 16:49.300] I just do the carnivore style. [16:49.300 --> 16:54.740] In over the last 15 months, there have been quite a few physiological changes in my body. [16:54.740 --> 17:02.020] One of them is that my gynecomastia has, I don't know what the correct term would be, [17:02.020 --> 17:03.020] ebbed? [17:03.020 --> 17:06.240] It's not gone, I'll tell you that. [17:06.240 --> 17:12.540] But it is less noticeable, which means it's going away. [17:12.540 --> 17:14.220] That's the really important part. [17:14.220 --> 17:20.700] My body seems to ever so slowly now be correcting it. [17:20.700 --> 17:22.360] And that's some pretty hot shit right there. [17:22.360 --> 17:23.360] That's pretty exciting. [17:23.360 --> 17:24.360] Yeah, okay. [17:24.360 --> 17:29.000] It would have been nice if it happened when I was 42, 43, still a young man, I'm 61 now. [17:29.000 --> 17:31.200] But I still take damn good care of myself. [17:31.200 --> 17:33.520] I still look pretty fucking good for 61. [17:33.520 --> 17:35.520] So yeah, I'm stoked about it. [17:35.520 --> 17:39.440] And I don't consider myself a vain person. [17:39.440 --> 17:42.840] I don't know, I grew up in LA, so maybe I am. [17:42.840 --> 17:44.800] But I don't consider myself a vain person. [17:44.800 --> 17:46.640] But I don't like to look funky. [17:46.640 --> 17:49.220] I don't like to look like shit's not right. [17:49.220 --> 17:51.360] So that's how I always felt about the gynecomastia. [17:51.360 --> 17:53.160] I don't need to look like Arnold Schwarzenegger. [17:53.160 --> 17:54.160] I don't need to look like anybody. [17:54.160 --> 17:55.160] I just need to look like me. [17:55.160 --> 17:56.160] But I want to look like me healthy. [17:56.160 --> 17:59.640] I don't want to look like me with some fucked up thing called gynecomastia. [17:59.640 --> 18:05.760] So the fact that my body appears to be rectifying it is really exciting. [18:05.760 --> 18:09.360] Now am I telling anyone else what to do? [18:09.360 --> 18:10.360] I'm not. [18:10.360 --> 18:13.280] I'm so over that. [18:13.280 --> 18:16.400] First of all, yeah, most people, they don't listen. [18:16.400 --> 18:20.520] And secondly, I can't guarantee that you'll have the same results I have for a couple [18:20.520 --> 18:21.880] of reasons. [18:21.880 --> 18:26.880] There is a certain amount of bioindividuality involved in these things. [18:26.880 --> 18:36.400] Also I was in ketosis for more than, no, a bit less than two years before I switched [18:36.400 --> 18:38.720] my style of eating to carnivore. [18:38.720 --> 18:41.360] So does that impact what's happening to my body now? [18:41.360 --> 18:42.360] I don't think so. [18:42.360 --> 18:43.360] But it could. [18:43.360 --> 18:44.360] So I want to be clear about that. [18:44.360 --> 18:45.760] I don't know the answer to that. [18:45.760 --> 18:51.560] I suspect that's not an element that has been in play here. [18:51.560 --> 18:52.880] But it could be. [18:52.880 --> 18:56.560] 15 months of carnivore. [18:56.560 --> 19:01.680] Most people don't have, I was going to say discipline, but for me it's not discipline. [19:01.680 --> 19:03.280] It's like how do you start your car? [19:03.280 --> 19:05.320] Well, I put the key fob in my pocket. [19:05.320 --> 19:06.320] I walk out to the car. [19:06.320 --> 19:07.320] I get in the car. [19:07.320 --> 19:08.320] I push the button. [19:08.320 --> 19:09.320] The car starts. [19:09.320 --> 19:10.640] There's nothing disciplined about that. [19:10.640 --> 19:11.640] That's how it works. [19:11.640 --> 19:13.960] And that's how I see living in ketosis. [19:14.720 --> 19:16.240] Just how the body is genetically coded to work. [19:16.240 --> 19:20.120] So why would I want to do something the body's not genetically coded for? [19:20.120 --> 19:21.920] Why would I want to burden my body with that? [19:21.920 --> 19:26.200] Why would I want to move down a road that will make my body ill when I can stay in a [19:26.200 --> 19:28.720] mode that makes my body incredibly healthful? [19:28.720 --> 19:32.440] And believe me, the reduction of my gynecomastia is just one of many, many, many, many things [19:32.440 --> 19:33.440] that's happening. [19:33.440 --> 19:38.480] Keto and even more so in the 15 months I've been eating carnivore. [19:38.480 --> 19:46.960] So I say all of that because, again, this number bandied about is 70% of American men [19:46.960 --> 19:51.080] have gynecomastia or have had gynecomastia because when you're younger, like you can [19:51.080 --> 19:53.840] get it when you're adolescent and it kind of goes away and the symptoms go away. [19:53.840 --> 19:57.200] So there's some ambiguity to the numbers here. [19:57.200 --> 20:03.680] But because the number 70% of men in the United States is thrown around, I'm hoping this helps [20:03.680 --> 20:04.680] somebody. [20:04.680 --> 20:11.440] If you want to learn more about the physiology behind ketosis, not about the keto diet, not [20:11.440 --> 20:15.720] about the carnivore diet, not about, I don't know, the paleo diet or anything else, but [20:15.720 --> 20:20.900] you want to learn the truth about your physiology, the truth that's frankly been hidden from [20:20.900 --> 20:27.880] you by the establishment for close to 60 years now and continues for the most part to be [20:27.880 --> 20:30.840] hidden from the vast majority of the American public. [20:30.840 --> 20:34.580] If you want to learn about that so that you can never get fooled again by the lies told [20:34.580 --> 20:39.660] by the media and the establishment, I want to encourage you to get a copy of Body Science. [20:39.660 --> 20:44.260] When I say that, I think a lot of people imagine, Dave's just trying to get my money. [20:44.260 --> 20:46.660] He's just trying to sell me something. [20:46.660 --> 20:49.780] I am trying to sell you something, but I'm not just trying to get your money. [20:49.780 --> 20:58.620] I'm trying to exchange a paltry sum of money for a gargantuan benefit. [20:58.620 --> 21:01.100] So who the fuck wins that equation, right? [21:01.100 --> 21:04.860] I want you to be as healthy and happy as you can be. [21:04.860 --> 21:10.740] I'm trying to share, the good news sounds a little pedantic. [21:10.740 --> 21:18.760] I want to share what has worked for me and literally, not exaggerating, worked for millions [21:18.760 --> 21:19.760] of other people. [21:19.760 --> 21:23.380] Do you know the only people who say that ketosis doesn't work or ketosis is dangerous, blah, [21:23.380 --> 21:24.860] blah, blah, whatever their bullshit is? [21:24.860 --> 21:26.660] You know the only people who say that? [21:26.660 --> 21:29.620] Yeah, the people who've never lived in ketosis. [21:29.620 --> 21:32.660] People who live in ketosis, even those that have done it and then for one reason or another [21:32.660 --> 21:35.860] fell away, they rave about it, right? [21:35.860 --> 21:36.860] Yeah. [21:36.860 --> 21:38.940] So don't listen to these bullshit artists. [21:38.940 --> 21:42.960] If you've got any physical malady, I don't want to say any physical malady because living [21:42.960 --> 21:47.740] in ketosis is not like waving a magic wand, but do read Body Science and then you have [21:47.740 --> 21:54.620] a great frame of reference to determine if something's going on with you, what are the [21:54.620 --> 21:56.620] odds that living in ketosis can correct it? [21:56.620 --> 22:02.260] You'll have a much better framework, an accurate framework, a bulletproof framework to make [22:02.260 --> 22:06.700] those kind of decisions and observations and analysis and make the decisions that are right [22:06.700 --> 22:09.700] for you once you've read Body Science. [22:09.700 --> 22:11.940] So I hope you'll do that. [22:11.940 --> 22:16.580] It's a very inexpensive book and you can never unknow what you know, which is probably a [22:16.580 --> 22:18.060] problem for some people. [22:18.060 --> 22:21.420] I don't know if I want to know, right, because then I might feel compelled to actually live [22:21.420 --> 22:22.420] it out. [22:22.420 --> 22:23.420] All right. [22:23.660 --> 22:25.700] Believe me, you will be blown away. [22:25.700 --> 22:30.620] It has received 100, I was going to say 100% positive reviews, but that's not true. [22:30.620 --> 22:36.500] Of the hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of reviews it's received, some woman sent [22:36.500 --> 22:40.420] me an email and said it was boring. [22:40.420 --> 22:43.260] So I'm pretty sure she couldn't understand this. [22:43.260 --> 22:46.320] I probably lost her chapter four where the physiology begins. [22:46.320 --> 22:48.880] And believe me, I've made it so simple. [22:48.880 --> 22:51.740] You can read the reviews at drreality.news. [22:51.740 --> 22:56.200] Just scroll down on the store page to Body Science and click on it and read the reviews. [22:56.200 --> 23:00.200] I mean, one of the things you'll see everybody says is thank you, Dave, for making this incredible [23:00.200 --> 23:04.060] physiology the truth so easy to understand. [23:04.060 --> 23:08.280] So yeah, I'm guessing she just didn't have the intellect. [23:08.280 --> 23:11.440] But other than her, it's gotten 100% rave reviews. [23:11.440 --> 23:14.440] So please do yourself a favor, get yourself a copy of Body Science. [23:14.440 --> 23:14.940] I'm out.