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[00:00.680 --> 00:03.120]  The political right wants voter ID.
[00:03.120 --> 00:05.200]  The political left doesn't.
[00:05.200 --> 00:08.840]  Being nonpartisan, I don't want voter fraud,
[00:08.840 --> 00:11.480]  and I don't want voter ID.
[00:11.480 --> 00:15.400]  So perhaps this whole thing is a distraction, a red herring,
[00:15.400 --> 00:19.360]  and there is a much better, easier, simpler way
[00:19.360 --> 00:20.040]  to go about it.
[00:20.040 --> 00:27.360]  The Dr. Reality Vodcast with Dave Champion.
[00:35.960 --> 00:38.760]  When the political right says they want voter ID,
[00:38.760 --> 00:40.760]  what they're really saying is we don't
[00:40.760 --> 00:44.560]  want voter election fraud, which I think
[00:44.560 --> 00:46.200]  everyone would agree with.
[00:46.200 --> 00:47.760]  And in the same breath, I think it's
[00:47.760 --> 00:51.000]  important to say what they're not indicating.
[00:51.000 --> 00:53.160]  I don't believe people on the political right, when they talk
[00:53.160 --> 00:55.880]  about voter ID laws, they're intending
[00:55.880 --> 00:58.440]  that grandma who moves a half a mile down the road
[00:58.440 --> 01:00.600]  and didn't realize her polling place changed
[01:00.600 --> 01:02.760]  should get in some sort of criminal problem
[01:02.760 --> 01:05.200]  or should not be allowed to vote because she was confused
[01:05.200 --> 01:07.920]  or misunderstood or just didn't have the necessary information.
[01:07.920 --> 01:09.440]  That's not the goal of the right.
[01:09.440 --> 01:13.200]  They're trying to stop election fraud, most specifically
[01:13.200 --> 01:16.120]  fraud by individual voters.
[01:16.120 --> 01:20.280]  Before I get to what I consider to be a better suggestion
[01:20.280 --> 01:22.400]  than everyone in America who wants to go vote
[01:22.400 --> 01:24.520]  has to have government ID, before I get there,
[01:24.520 --> 01:25.640]  a little bit of foundation.
[01:25.640 --> 01:29.800]  First of all, every single person who registers to vote
[01:29.800 --> 01:32.040]  must show, in one form or another,
[01:32.040 --> 01:35.400]  it's not just one form, there are various different ways,
[01:35.400 --> 01:41.160]  but they must show that they are eligible to vote.
[01:41.160 --> 01:43.720]  So the point being, when they register,
[01:43.720 --> 01:45.200]  they're already meeting the standard
[01:45.200 --> 01:47.720]  of showing the county in which they have residency
[01:47.720 --> 01:50.400]  that they are entitled to vote.
[01:50.400 --> 01:52.360]  So I think we need to start there,
[01:52.360 --> 01:55.120]  that everyone whose name is on the voter rolls
[01:55.120 --> 01:58.480]  has, at some point, done that.
[01:58.480 --> 02:01.960]  I also want to mention that if you go to a polling place
[02:01.960 --> 02:04.080]  and claim to be somebody other than you are,
[02:04.080 --> 02:06.720]  without regard to an ID requirement,
[02:06.720 --> 02:09.360]  if you go to a polling place and attempt
[02:09.360 --> 02:12.360]  to vote as somebody that you are not,
[02:12.360 --> 02:14.520]  that is a crime in every state of the union.
[02:14.520 --> 02:16.560]  If you go to multiple polling places
[02:16.560 --> 02:19.000]  and try and vote more than once, that
[02:19.000 --> 02:23.920]  is a violation of criminal law in every state in the union.
[02:23.920 --> 02:26.200]  I think it's also important to acknowledge
[02:26.200 --> 02:30.960]  that those people who are on the far, far, far right
[02:30.960 --> 02:34.560]  and believe that anybody who disagrees with them,
[02:34.560 --> 02:38.880]  hates America, hates their god, hates their man god,
[02:38.880 --> 02:42.360]  Donald Trump, blah, blah, blah, and that anyone who
[02:42.360 --> 02:45.200]  disagrees with them, anyone who disagrees with them,
[02:45.200 --> 02:48.240]  is more than willing to commit a crime
[02:48.240 --> 02:52.360]  to get their guy in office when, in fact, when you talk
[02:52.360 --> 02:54.960]  to investigators, criminal investigators,
[02:54.960 --> 02:57.880]  and attorneys who work with voter integrity issues
[02:57.880 --> 03:00.440]  and they try and track down people who have committed
[03:00.440 --> 03:03.000]  election fraud, the number of people who have done that
[03:03.000 --> 03:07.520]  historically is infinitesimally small.
[03:07.520 --> 03:09.680]  So I think it's important to define
[03:09.840 --> 03:13.640]  the scope of the problem and also to define, as I just did,
[03:13.640 --> 03:15.240]  the fact that people who are on the far right,
[03:15.240 --> 03:18.800]  they have a very unrealistic perspective
[03:18.800 --> 03:21.680]  of what people who disagree with them feel,
[03:21.680 --> 03:23.880]  what they're about, what they're willing to do.
[03:23.880 --> 03:26.960]  So when we hear people on the far right screaming,
[03:26.960 --> 03:28.600]  they're gonna steal every election,
[03:28.600 --> 03:30.680]  we have to understand they're not really viewing this
[03:30.680 --> 03:32.920]  factually or rationally.
[03:32.920 --> 03:36.440]  With all that said, do I want anyone to go to a polling place
[03:36.440 --> 03:37.640]  and commit fraud?
[03:37.640 --> 03:39.160]  No, I don't.
[03:39.160 --> 03:44.160]  However, I'm also not a fan of the ever-growing police state
[03:44.240 --> 03:45.800]  in America.
[03:45.800 --> 03:49.080]  You know, I would think, since people on the hard right
[03:49.080 --> 03:52.080]  tend to be, these days, sort of anti-establishment,
[03:52.080 --> 03:53.800]  you go back 40, 50 years ago, it was the left
[03:53.800 --> 03:55.080]  that was anti-establishment.
[03:55.080 --> 03:56.880]  Today, it's these people who are far right
[03:56.880 --> 03:57.920]  who are anti-establishment.
[03:57.920 --> 04:00.840]  So you would think that if they're anti-establishment,
[04:00.840 --> 04:03.600]  they would not support the growth of the police state.
[04:03.600 --> 04:08.360]  But they do, whenever it serves their emotional purpose.
[04:08.360 --> 04:11.880]  In my case, I never support the growth of the police state.
[04:11.880 --> 04:15.640]  There is no justification, there is nothing I can think of
[04:15.640 --> 04:17.800]  that would cause me to ever support the growth
[04:17.800 --> 04:19.320]  of the police state.
[04:19.320 --> 04:22.800]  I see requiring every single person who wants to exercise
[04:22.800 --> 04:26.160]  the political right to vote to have government identification
[04:26.160 --> 04:27.080]  and show it at the polling place,
[04:27.080 --> 04:30.120]  I consider that just one more straw on the camel's back
[04:30.120 --> 04:31.400]  concerning a police state.
[04:31.400 --> 04:32.720]  So I don't want that.
[04:32.720 --> 04:35.280]  But I also don't want anyone to commit election fraud
[04:35.280 --> 04:37.000]  when they walk into the polling place.
[04:37.040 --> 04:40.120]  So do I have a solution?
[04:40.120 --> 04:42.160]  I believe I do.
[04:42.160 --> 04:46.000]  Normally, vote fraud is not considered a serious crime
[04:46.000 --> 04:48.760]  and jurisdictions rarely have jail time for it.
[04:48.760 --> 04:50.960]  Even if it's on the books to have jail time,
[04:50.960 --> 04:54.480]  it's rare for a defendant to actually get jail time.
[04:54.480 --> 04:56.640]  Usually the investigators have sufficient evidence
[04:56.640 --> 05:01.360]  and the suspect pleads guilty and gets a slap on the wrist,
[05:01.360 --> 05:03.360]  gets a couple of years probation, whatever.
[05:03.360 --> 05:07.200]  So it's not punished very firmly.
[05:08.160 --> 05:10.360]  I think if we want to address the problem,
[05:10.360 --> 05:11.560]  and again, I want to be very, very clear,
[05:11.560 --> 05:14.640]  this is a tiny, tiny, tiny, tiny, tiny, tiny problem
[05:14.640 --> 05:17.200]  for which having everybody have to have government ID
[05:17.200 --> 05:19.880]  is just like dramatic overkill.
[05:20.680 --> 05:25.160]  However, I would support changing the laws in all 50 states
[05:25.160 --> 05:28.760]  so that somebody who commits an intentional,
[05:28.760 --> 05:30.960]  that's key words, we don't want grandma
[05:30.960 --> 05:32.680]  who made some sort of human error
[05:32.680 --> 05:34.040]  and put away in jail for years.
[05:34.040 --> 05:37.680]  If investigators can show that the person
[05:37.680 --> 05:40.760]  intentionally committed vote fraud,
[05:40.760 --> 05:44.000]  like voting under a name that is not their own,
[05:44.000 --> 05:45.680]  going to multiple polling places,
[05:45.680 --> 05:47.600]  attempting to vote more than once and so forth.
[05:47.600 --> 05:50.280]  So if they can show intent,
[05:50.280 --> 05:55.280]  I would support a mandatory 10-year prison sentence
[05:55.920 --> 05:57.520]  without early release.
[05:57.520 --> 05:59.280]  And here's why, because people may like
[05:59.280 --> 06:00.760]  reference the Eighth Amendment and they're like,
[06:00.760 --> 06:03.680]  okay, so this wouldn't seem proportional to the crime,
[06:03.680 --> 06:05.960]  right, so if I robbed a liquor store
[06:05.960 --> 06:08.080]  and I didn't do anything heinous,
[06:08.080 --> 06:09.680]  maybe just like had my hand in my pocket
[06:09.680 --> 06:11.120]  and said, I have a gun, give me your money.
[06:11.120 --> 06:12.760]  You know, I might get a year, year and a half,
[06:12.760 --> 06:14.600]  something like that in prison.
[06:14.600 --> 06:16.920]  However, there's one victim,
[06:16.920 --> 06:18.600]  I'm just aggrandizing myself,
[06:18.600 --> 06:22.160]  which is entirely different than election fraud.
[06:22.160 --> 06:27.160]  Election fraud, every single person that votes,
[06:28.160 --> 06:31.640]  so in some jurisdictions, that's thousands,
[06:31.640 --> 06:35.960]  in other jurisdictions, that's tens of millions.
[06:35.960 --> 06:38.040]  The person who commits election fraud
[06:38.040 --> 06:41.200]  is trying to disenfranchise
[06:41.200 --> 06:43.560]  every single one of those people.
[06:43.560 --> 06:46.880]  So to me, trying to commit vote fraud,
[06:46.880 --> 06:48.400]  let's say there's a million people
[06:48.400 --> 06:51.640]  that voted in a particular jurisdiction in a county, okay?
[06:51.640 --> 06:53.360]  So somebody committing vote fraud there,
[06:53.360 --> 06:54.800]  what they're really trying to do
[06:54.800 --> 06:56.400]  is they're really trying to disenfranchise,
[06:56.400 --> 07:01.400]  they're trying to harm, in a legal sense, a million people.
[07:01.840 --> 07:04.680]  So that the penalty for trying to harm
[07:04.680 --> 07:07.120]  a million people's political rights
[07:07.120 --> 07:11.160]  should not be the same as me harming one liquor store, right?
[07:11.160 --> 07:12.880]  So I don't think the Eighth Amendment
[07:12.880 --> 07:15.040]  bars this kind of punishment.
[07:15.040 --> 07:18.240]  And the reason I think it should be this stiff
[07:18.240 --> 07:22.720]  is to settle the question of whether it's going on
[07:22.720 --> 07:24.160]  or how much it's going on,
[07:24.160 --> 07:26.600]  because right now, realistically, again,
[07:26.600 --> 07:27.760]  when you talk to prosecutors,
[07:27.760 --> 07:30.320]  you talk to attorneys who deal with voting integrity issues,
[07:30.320 --> 07:31.960]  you talk to investigators,
[07:31.960 --> 07:33.960]  they'll tell you it virtually never happens, right?
[07:33.960 --> 07:36.360]  But you're never going to convince people
[07:36.360 --> 07:38.480]  on the hard right that that's true.
[07:38.480 --> 07:40.360]  They believe they're losing elections
[07:40.360 --> 07:44.080]  because everyone who disagrees with them is cheating, okay?
[07:44.080 --> 07:45.440]  So we need to settle the question,
[07:45.440 --> 07:46.720]  and I think this is a great way to do it
[07:46.720 --> 07:48.360]  without building the police state.
[07:48.360 --> 07:51.960]  You say, if you commit vote fraud,
[07:51.960 --> 07:53.560]  and if the investigator,
[07:53.560 --> 07:54.400]  and you do it in such a way
[07:54.400 --> 07:55.720]  that investigators can show intent,
[07:55.720 --> 07:58.800]  you are going to give up 10 years of your life
[07:58.800 --> 08:02.800]  because you tried to disenfranchise all of these people.
[08:02.800 --> 08:06.120]  And that will settle the question
[08:06.120 --> 08:07.160]  about whether it's going on,
[08:07.160 --> 08:10.720]  because I think even, even, even
[08:10.720 --> 08:13.440]  the people who are on the hard, hard right
[08:13.440 --> 08:15.600]  would have to acknowledge,
[08:15.600 --> 08:18.480]  aside from somebody who is like crazy,
[08:18.480 --> 08:22.200]  like literally mentally out of their mind,
[08:22.200 --> 08:27.080]  short of that, no one is going to give up,
[08:27.080 --> 08:32.080]  or risk giving up 10 years of their life.
[08:32.960 --> 08:35.720]  This kind of law in all 50 states would settle the issue
[08:35.720 --> 08:37.320]  because no one left, center, right,
[08:37.320 --> 08:40.600]  no one is going to say, yeah, you know what,
[08:40.600 --> 08:42.000]  people who disagree with me,
[08:42.000 --> 08:43.920]  those people that I loathe and detest
[08:43.920 --> 08:45.720]  on the other side of the aisle,
[08:45.720 --> 08:47.440]  yeah, you know what, they're going out
[08:47.440 --> 08:49.960]  in just wholesale numbers,
[08:49.960 --> 08:52.080]  and they're committing voter fraud
[08:52.080 --> 08:55.000]  so they can give up 10 years of their life.
[08:55.000 --> 08:59.480]  So yeah, that will totally settle the question.
[08:59.480 --> 09:03.280]  The statute would only impact
[09:03.280 --> 09:06.520]  the tiny, tiny, tiny, tiny, tiny percentage of people
[09:06.520 --> 09:08.640]  that would actually commit voter fraud,
[09:08.640 --> 09:11.560]  and it would leave the hundreds of millions
[09:11.560 --> 09:14.160]  of other voters unmolested,
[09:14.160 --> 09:18.800]  and we wouldn't need to further grow the police state.
[09:19.840 --> 09:21.320]  As I close, do yourself a favor,
[09:21.320 --> 09:23.720]  run over to doctorreality.news,
[09:23.720 --> 09:25.520]  pick yourself up a copy of Body Science,
[09:25.520 --> 09:27.920]  pick yourself up a copy of Income Tax Shattering the Mist.
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[09:30.480 --> 09:33.640]  either one or both, to be the most fascinating books
[09:33.640 --> 09:35.760]  you have ever read, my word to you.
[09:35.760 --> 09:38.520]  A quick word about Income Tax Shattering the Mist.
[09:38.520 --> 09:40.240]  So don't talk about it often anymore,
[09:40.240 --> 09:42.640]  I leave it to people to purchase and read the book,
[09:42.640 --> 09:44.120]  and that settles the question.
[09:44.120 --> 09:47.240]  It's been published now for 11 years straight,
[09:47.240 --> 09:50.880]  and no one has ever reached out to me in 11 years
[09:50.880 --> 09:52.360]  and said they disagree with the conclusions,
[09:52.360 --> 09:54.400]  and as far as the reviews are concerned,
[09:54.400 --> 09:56.040]  no matter where they appear across the internet,
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[10:00.920 --> 10:02.480]  What it does is it reveals something,
[10:02.480 --> 10:04.040]  and I think it's really important to understand that.
[10:04.040 --> 10:07.480]  It reveals something, and that something
[10:07.480 --> 10:11.560]  is that Congress has not, let me repeat that,
[10:11.560 --> 10:16.560]  Congress has not imposed the income tax
[10:17.040 --> 10:19.280]  on the average American, gets up in the morning,
[10:19.280 --> 10:22.360]  grabs a cup of coffee, gets the kids off to school,
[10:22.360 --> 10:24.680]  and then heads into the office and does a little work,
[10:24.680 --> 10:26.960]  gets a paycheck at the end of the week.
[10:26.960 --> 10:31.800]  Congress has never imposed the income tax
[10:31.800 --> 10:34.880]  on that what the law calls the class of person.
[10:34.880 --> 10:37.720]  You've been told they did,
[10:37.720 --> 10:40.160]  but what you'll find in Income Tax Shattering the Mist,
[10:40.160 --> 10:44.400]  it begins in 1895 for the Supreme Court case
[10:44.400 --> 10:47.280]  dealing with income tax, and it takes you step by step
[10:47.280 --> 10:49.520]  in an easy-to-understand manner
[10:49.520 --> 10:51.760]  through the entire progression
[10:51.760 --> 10:54.440]  all the way into the 21st century
[10:54.440 --> 10:58.760]  of what's really been going on with the income tax,
[10:58.760 --> 11:01.760]  and you get to see internal IRS documents
[11:01.760 --> 11:03.000]  where the government tacitly admits
[11:03.000 --> 11:04.600]  it doesn't apply to everybody,
[11:04.600 --> 11:06.200]  but they didn't think decades ago
[11:06.200 --> 11:07.280]  when they wrote those documents
[11:07.280 --> 11:10.440]  that anyone in the public would ever get a copy of them,
[11:10.440 --> 11:11.920]  which I did.
[11:11.920 --> 11:14.920]  When you close the final page of Income Tax Shattering the Mist,
[11:14.920 --> 11:17.000]  you will have all the knowledge you need
[11:17.040 --> 11:19.480]  if you want to, to say to yourself,
[11:19.480 --> 11:23.680]  wow, this thing is a scam,
[11:23.680 --> 11:25.440]  and I don't want to get scammed anymore,
[11:25.440 --> 11:26.760]  so I'm going to start the process
[11:26.760 --> 11:29.080]  of stepping away from the scam.
[11:29.080 --> 11:32.440]  You will have all that knowledge.
[11:32.440 --> 11:35.240]  So do yourself a favor, go to DrReality.News,
[11:35.240 --> 11:37.520]  pick yourself up a copy of Income Tax Shattering the Mist,
[11:37.520 --> 11:39.200]  and or Body Science.
[11:39.200 --> 11:41.080]  Thanks for being here.