Detecting language using up to the first 30 seconds. Use `--language` to specify the language Detected language: English [00:00.960 --> 00:06.240] Welcome to the vodcast. When it comes to specialized professions, the public is [00:06.240 --> 00:10.800] generally ill-equipped to judge the merits, or lack thereof, of a narrative put out by those who [00:10.800 --> 00:15.840] are credentialed in a specialized field. We witnessed that during the SARS-CoV-2 event. [00:15.840 --> 00:22.240] The public, being unable to make heads or tales of the science, accepted or rejected various [00:22.240 --> 00:26.160] narratives based on their opinion of the credibility of people in the media who were [00:26.160 --> 00:31.680] opposing or defending the narratives. And of course, a lot of that had to do with confirmation [00:31.680 --> 00:38.640] bias. The law and how America's legal system actually works is another specialized field [00:38.640 --> 00:44.960] concerning which the vast majority of Americans know very little. In the context that Americans [00:44.960 --> 00:50.160] know very little about the law and how our legal system actually operates, we now have the [00:50.160 --> 00:55.920] indictment of former President Donald Trump. And as was the case with SARS-CoV-2, people were [00:55.920 --> 01:00.560] forming their outlook based on their opinion of the credibility of people in the media who oppose [01:00.560 --> 01:07.840] or defend the indictment. And once again, a lot of that involves confirmation bias. I thought we [01:07.840 --> 01:13.040] might take a few minutes today to cut through all the media and social media rhetoric and take an [01:13.040 --> 01:17.280] objective look at the indictment, as well as examine some of the things that are being said [01:17.280 --> 01:25.200] in the press. I'm also going to explain the true bottom line about what is actually occurring, [01:25.200 --> 01:27.600] that no one in the media is saying out loud. [01:44.000 --> 01:48.880] Let's start with this. The purpose of this presentation is not to convince you of anything [01:48.880 --> 01:53.840] in any particular direction. Phrased another way, this presentation is not a defense of [01:53.840 --> 01:59.200] Donald Trump nor a condemnation of him in terms of the crimes alleged in the indictment. My purpose [01:59.200 --> 02:04.480] today is to give you an informed framework from which to make your own judgment. If we're going [02:04.480 --> 02:10.400] to discuss a criminal indictment, we should know what a criminal indictment is. Perhaps the best [02:10.400 --> 02:15.840] place to ascertain that is from Rule 7 of the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure, which reads, [02:15.840 --> 02:17.600] in its relevant part, quote, [02:23.840 --> 02:28.560] essential facts constituting the offense charged and must be signed by an attorney for the [02:28.560 --> 02:34.160] government. It need not contain a formal introduction or conclusion. For each count, [02:34.160 --> 02:39.840] the indictment must give the official or customary citation of the statute, rule, regulation, or other [02:39.840 --> 02:46.720] provision of law that the defendant is alleged to have violated, close quote. Because I'm going [02:46.720 --> 02:51.120] to ask you a number of questions about the indictment, I'm going to put a link in the [02:51.120 --> 02:59.600] notes to the full 44 page indictment. And honestly, if you have any integrity, you shouldn't be talking [02:59.600 --> 03:05.680] about this matter unless or until you've read the entire 44 pages. People feeling they are free to [03:05.680 --> 03:09.920] talk shit about things concerning which they haven't done their homework is, in my opinion, [03:09.920 --> 03:17.920] one of the biggest problems today in American society. So please don't be that guy. Let's perform [03:17.920 --> 03:23.760] a strictly technical analysis of the indictment. In other words, does it meet the requirements set [03:23.760 --> 03:29.520] forth in Rule 7? If we isolate the requirements for a valid indictment under Rule 7, here's what [03:29.520 --> 03:32.240] they look like. First, it must be, quote, [03:39.920 --> 03:44.480] Next, it must be signed by an attorney for the government. And finally, it says, [03:48.080 --> 03:52.160] of the statute, rule, regulation, or other provision of law that the defendant is alleged [03:52.160 --> 03:58.720] to have violated. So my first question for you is, does the indictment against Donald Trump fulfill [03:58.720 --> 04:05.760] the requirements laid out in Rule 7? If it does, we move forward with our investigation. If it does [04:05.760 --> 04:12.080] not, we don't need to go any further because it wouldn't be a valid indictment. What allegations [04:12.080 --> 04:20.400] are made against Trump in the indictment? Do you trust the media? If not, perhaps you should read [04:20.400 --> 04:26.800] the indictment for yourself. I could read the entire 44 page indictment for you here today, [04:27.840 --> 04:32.480] but that would be time consuming and dry, especially since you should be reading it for [04:32.480 --> 04:37.920] yourself. In the interest of time, I'll give you the government's allegations in plain English. [04:37.920 --> 04:41.760] You needn't take my word for anything because you're going to read the indictment for yourself. [04:42.640 --> 04:46.800] Right? I'm going to number what I lay out for you in plain English from the indictment. [04:47.360 --> 04:53.760] There's a reason for that, which we'll get into as we proceed. Also, keep in mind that 100 percent [04:53.760 --> 05:01.440] of the allegations pertain to Trump's actions after he was no longer president. In the indictment, [05:01.440 --> 05:07.200] the U.S. Department of Justice alleges Donald Trump did or caused to be done the following, [05:07.200 --> 05:09.920] which it contends are violations of law. [05:37.280 --> 05:42.640] Four, had one of his attorneys sent a letter to the government stating all classified documents [05:42.640 --> 05:47.600] in Trump's possession had been returned to the government, knowing that statement was false. [05:47.600 --> 05:52.640] Five, for a time he stored the boxes containing the classified documents on the stage of his ballroom [05:52.640 --> 05:58.320] where numerous public events are held. Six, he showed one of the classified files to a small [05:58.320 --> 06:04.480] group and told them it was classified. Seven, he showed a representative of a political action [06:04.560 --> 06:09.920] committee part of a classified file and told her he was not supposed to do that because the document [06:09.920 --> 06:16.400] is classified. Eight, employees working for the ex-president who did not have security clearances [06:16.400 --> 06:22.160] routinely handled the boxes containing classified documents. Nine, on at least one occasion content [06:22.160 --> 06:27.600] spilled out of boxes onto the floor clearly displaying files marked top secret. Ten, he [06:27.600 --> 06:32.160] appointed a custodian of records to deal with the government concerning the classified documents [06:32.160 --> 06:37.280] while concealing from the custodian the existence of a number of classified documents so the [06:37.280 --> 06:42.480] custodian would make false statements to the government. Eleven, when a federal grand jury [06:42.480 --> 06:47.760] subpoenaed classified documents it believed were in his possession, Trump surrendered some classified [06:47.760 --> 06:52.960] documents while retaining others and conspired with other persons to conceal that he did not [06:52.960 --> 06:59.200] surrender all documents required by the subpoena. Twelve, a grand jury issued a search warrant for [06:59.200 --> 07:04.400] the ex-president's residence when the warrant was executed numerous classified documents required [07:04.400 --> 07:09.440] by the earlier subpoena to have been surrendered to the government were found in Trump's residence. [07:09.440 --> 07:15.360] And 13, over the course of the above actions Trump knowingly willfully and intentionally took steps [07:15.360 --> 07:20.560] to obstruct a federal investigation. That's a plain English recitation of what the government [07:20.560 --> 07:27.120] alleges Trump did. Now let's quickly consider the legal grounds for dismissing a federal criminal [07:27.120 --> 07:32.000] indictment. Dismissal can take place for several reasons but on a practical basis there are really [07:32.000 --> 07:37.760] only two. First, the indictment was handed down after the statute of limitations had expired for [07:37.760 --> 07:43.120] the crimes alleged. And second, the indictment fails to include sufficient facts supporting the [07:43.120 --> 07:50.160] allegations. Neither is applicable in this matter. Now that we know a bit about indictments generally [07:50.160 --> 07:55.440] and the indictment against Trump specifically, what are we hearing from various social media [07:55.440 --> 08:01.200] influencers and even Trump? I've chosen just a few examples to discuss with you today because [08:01.200 --> 08:05.360] I think you'll find after the first few going through them all would not be a wise expenditure [08:05.360 --> 08:10.160] of our time together. The first one for today is the narrative that the presidential records act [08:10.720 --> 08:16.560] superseded the espionage act. According to this argument since the PRA is civil in nature the [08:16.560 --> 08:22.880] entire indictment is legally invalid. As you might imagine the claim that the PRA superseded the [08:22.880 --> 08:29.600] espionage act is ridiculous nonsense. If you come across this stupidity simply ask the person to [08:29.600 --> 08:35.840] provide evidence, any evidence whether legislative, executive, or judicial that the PRA superseded the [08:35.840 --> 08:41.360] espionage act. Once you ask for supporting evidence you'll never hear from the person again because [08:41.360 --> 08:48.400] it's cockamamie nonsense. Only an idiot or a troll would say. The next claim is that since there has [08:48.400 --> 08:53.520] been no accusation Trump turned over classified documents to a foreign power any charge under the [08:53.520 --> 09:01.360] espionage act is invalid. Is that true? The vast majority of Americans will never read the indictment [09:01.360 --> 09:07.120] fewer still will read the espionage act. Here are the facts about the espionage act. There is no [09:07.120 --> 09:11.920] requirement in the act for the national defense secrets to be turned over to a foreign entity [09:11.920 --> 09:17.600] in order to have violated the act. It is sufficient under the act that one possesses classified [09:17.600 --> 09:23.040] documents concerning which he or she is not authorized. Second, if it was true that for [09:23.040 --> 09:26.880] charges to be brought under the act the accused would have to have turned over classified materials [09:26.880 --> 09:34.000] to a foreign entity then charges could only be brought after the secrets got into enemy hands. [09:34.560 --> 09:39.360] Does anyone in their right mind actually believe that's how the espionage act works? Another [09:39.360 --> 09:43.840] argument is that Trump can't be prosecuted under the provision of the espionage act that criminalizes [09:43.840 --> 09:50.560] possession of classified documents because section 793e that criminalizes such possession [09:50.560 --> 09:58.240] doesn't expressly use the words classified documents. So first off the phrase classified [09:58.240 --> 10:06.880] documents does not appear in section 793e. That is a fact. The question then becomes does that [10:06.880 --> 10:10.880] make any difference as a matter of law and more pointedly does it make any difference concerning [10:10.880 --> 10:15.120] the indictment of Trump? Let's go through the facts. You can make up your own mind. [10:15.840 --> 10:22.720] What does 793e say? It's heavy with legalese so I'm going to strip out all of the language that's [10:22.720 --> 10:27.280] extraneous to the question at hand and focus on just the part that's relevant to the Trump [10:27.280 --> 10:32.160] indictment. I'll put a link to the statute in the notes and I encourage you to read the full text [10:32.160 --> 10:39.600] for yourself. Section 793e reads in its relevant part quote, whoever having unauthorized possession [10:39.600 --> 10:45.440] of access to or control over any document relating to the national defense or information relating [10:45.440 --> 10:50.400] to the national defense which information the possessor has reason to believe could be used [10:50.400 --> 10:55.360] to the injury of the United States or to the advantage of any foreign nation willfully retains [10:55.360 --> 11:00.400] the same and fails to deliver it to the officer employee of the United States entitled to receive [11:00.400 --> 11:06.560] it blah blah blah close quote. Even that stripped down version was a little wordy so let's break [11:06.560 --> 11:14.880] that down. The first element is quote, whoever having unauthorized possession. As a former [11:14.880 --> 11:21.760] president, was Trump authorized? He was not as a matter of law. While a former president may apply [11:21.760 --> 11:26.400] for a waiver that allows him to possess certain classified documents, Trump never applied for such [11:26.400 --> 11:32.000] a waiver. As a former president who did not apply for the waiver, he was not authorized to possess [11:32.000 --> 11:36.880] those documents. Phrased another way he was unauthorized which is the word used in the [11:36.880 --> 11:42.480] statute. The next part states that materials concerning which the unauthorized person has [11:42.480 --> 11:48.640] possession relate to national defense which information the possessor has reason to believe [11:48.640 --> 11:56.400] could be used to the injury of the United States. The key words there are has reason to believe could [11:56.400 --> 12:03.120] be used to the injury of the United States. Having been in the Oval Office for four years, [12:03.120 --> 12:07.840] do we imagine Trump is aware of the government's classification system and what those classification [12:07.840 --> 12:13.760] levels mean? After four years in the Oval Office, of course he does. With that understanding, [12:13.760 --> 12:19.280] let's take a look at what the three levels of classification mean. We'll start with top secret [12:19.280 --> 12:25.760] and work our way down. Quote, information is classified as top secret if the authorized [12:25.760 --> 12:32.560] disclosure of that information reasonably could be expected to cause exceptionally grave damage to [12:32.560 --> 12:40.800] the national security. So top secret designates exceptionally grave damage to the national [12:40.800 --> 12:47.520] security if disclosed to unauthorized persons. Next, information is classified as secret if the [12:47.520 --> 12:53.440] unauthorized disclosure of that information reasonably could be expected to cause serious [12:53.440 --> 13:00.640] damage to the national security. So secret steps down from exceptionally grave damage [13:01.440 --> 13:09.600] to serious damage. Next, information is classified as confidential if the unauthorized disclosure of [13:09.600 --> 13:15.200] that information reasonably could be expected to cause damage to the national security. So [13:16.080 --> 13:23.680] confidential steps down from serious damage to simply damage. Hopefully you noted that each of [13:23.680 --> 13:28.800] these three classification means the information contained in the document has the ability to [13:28.800 --> 13:36.640] injure national security. And what is the language of the statute? Quote, the possessor has reason [13:36.640 --> 13:44.640] to believe the information could be used to the injury of the United States. The possessor in this [13:44.640 --> 13:51.840] indictment is Trump. As we've discussed, he knew documents marked top secret, secret, or confidential [13:51.840 --> 13:56.400] are thusly classified because the information contained in those files can reasonably be [13:56.400 --> 14:02.320] expected to injure the national security of the United States. The last element of the statute is [14:02.320 --> 14:12.000] quote, willfully retains such information. In law, what does willful mean? It means the person knows [14:12.000 --> 14:17.840] he or she is under a legal duty to do or not do a particular thing and chooses to do or not do that [14:17.840 --> 14:23.920] thing despite knowing his or her actions violate the law. Feel free to back this presentation up [14:23.920 --> 14:28.880] and go through this breakdown again if you didn't quite grasp it all. Since we've discussed the [14:28.880 --> 14:33.760] meaning of top secret, secret, and confidential, we should probably consider what documents were [14:33.760 --> 14:39.440] in Trump's possession. According to the indictment, the following classified documents were found [14:39.440 --> 14:50.320] during the search of Mar-a-Lago. 17 files marked top secret. 54 files marked secret. 31 files marked [14:50.320 --> 14:56.640] confidential. So to recap, the evidence demonstrates Trump was in possession of classified [14:56.640 --> 15:02.480] documents. He was not authorized to be in possession of said documents. He had reason to know that the [15:02.480 --> 15:08.160] content of the documents could harm national security and he willfully retained them. I hope [15:08.160 --> 15:13.200] this makes it clear that the absence of the phrase classified documents does not invalidate [15:13.200 --> 15:21.360] prosecution under section 793e. Before I move on, let me point out that at trial the burden is upon [15:21.360 --> 15:29.920] the government to prove each element of the crime to the jury beyond a reasonable doubt and Trump [15:29.920 --> 15:35.280] will have the opportunity to challenge each of those elements. Another assertion is that the [15:35.280 --> 15:40.560] criminal case will evaporate at trial because portions of the indictment rely on the testimony [15:40.560 --> 15:45.920] of Evan Corcoran, a former Trump attorney. The grand jury attained Corcoran's testimony after [15:45.920 --> 15:51.760] federal judge determined attorney-client privilege should be set aside because evidence submitted to [15:51.760 --> 15:57.440] the court indicated conversations between Trump and Corcoran likely involved planning a crime. [15:58.080 --> 16:01.760] Setting aside attorney-client privilege under such circumstances is known as the [16:02.240 --> 16:08.480] crime fraud exception. I'm not going to delve into that today because it is in fact irrelevant [16:08.480 --> 16:14.400] to the validity of the indictment. If a federal court determined the crime fraud exception applied [16:14.400 --> 16:18.640] to conversations between Corcoran and Trump, then the grand jury was entitled to hear Corcoran's [16:18.640 --> 16:23.520] testimony and there is nothing unlawful about that testimony being used in part or in whole [16:23.520 --> 16:28.000] as the basis for the indictment. If the court erred in its determination about the crime fraud [16:28.000 --> 16:33.520] exception, that's a matter to be addressed at trial and this presentation is about the indictment, [16:33.520 --> 16:38.240] not a trial that hasn't yet taken place. A quick note about the trial. It is currently [16:38.240 --> 16:44.400] scheduled to begin on August 14, 2023 and as I'm recording this, Jack Smith turned over [16:44.400 --> 16:49.440] all of the government's evidence to Trump's attorneys yesterday. Let me take a quick moment [16:49.440 --> 16:55.280] to ask you to subscribe to the channel or follow the page and hit the like button. By doing so, [16:55.280 --> 17:00.080] you signal the algorithms to share this content with more people. Thank you for doing those simple [17:00.080 --> 17:05.440] things to spread the message. One attempt to supposedly call into question the validity of [17:05.440 --> 17:12.160] the indictment has been for a person to ask, why now? The question is then answered by the very [17:12.160 --> 17:16.640] person who asked it and the narrative presented is that the indictment must be considered suspect [17:16.640 --> 17:21.440] because of its timing. I leave it to you to determine whether the indictment should be [17:21.440 --> 17:28.640] considered suspect, but it certainly has nothing to do with timing. NARA first reached out to Trump [17:28.640 --> 17:33.120] in May of 2021 seeking the return of documents belonging to the United States government under [17:33.120 --> 17:39.440] the Presidential Records Act. Every bit of the timing of this situation has been in Trump's [17:39.440 --> 17:47.360] control since that moment, including Trump not responding to NARA's request for seven months. [17:47.360 --> 17:52.960] If when NARA had first contacted Trump, he'd simply told NARA, send a truck and you can take [17:52.960 --> 17:58.400] all the boxes. The matter would have ended right then and there. Also, had Trump said that to NARA, [17:58.400 --> 18:05.120] prosecution under 793E would not have been possible because Trump would not have willfully retained [18:05.120 --> 18:13.760] classified documents. In short, the why now claim is nonsensical. This claim has been made by Donald [18:13.760 --> 18:20.640] Trump. Trump has asserted the documents in his possession were his personal property. I'm confident [18:20.640 --> 18:25.840] the content of some of the boxes was Trump's personal property, but witness testimony before [18:25.840 --> 18:30.960] the grand jury makes it clear Trump knew he was in possession of classified documents. And of course, [18:30.960 --> 18:35.760] DOJ made it crystal clear in its numerous telephone conversations with Trump's attorneys [18:35.760 --> 18:40.880] that it was seeking the return of classified documents, not any of Trump's personal property. [18:41.680 --> 18:46.800] Do I need to mention that documents that have been classified are always the property of the [18:46.800 --> 18:52.480] U.S. government because they are created by federal agencies? In a recent Fox News interview, [18:52.480 --> 19:00.400] Trump claimed he wanted to return the documents, but he was very busy and didn't have time to go [19:00.400 --> 19:04.800] through the boxes to determine what items were his and what items belonged to the government. [19:05.760 --> 19:12.240] That is, of course, absurd. Grand jury witness testimony informs us that Trump was personally [19:12.240 --> 19:17.920] involved in selecting what documents went to Mar-a-Lago. NARA reached out to Trump in May 2021, [19:17.920 --> 19:21.920] seeking the return of all documents in Trump's possession belonging to the government. [19:22.640 --> 19:26.400] Because Trump was personally involved in selecting what went to Mar-a-Lago, [19:27.120 --> 19:32.880] he knew what was in the boxes. In fact, Trump selected more than 300 classified documents to [19:32.880 --> 19:39.040] be moved to Mar-a-Lago. Despite NARA reaching out on numerous occasions, Trump didn't respond to [19:39.040 --> 19:47.200] NARA, NARA's request, until December 2021, seven months after the initial request. In that response, [19:47.200 --> 19:55.440] Trump said he had located some documents. In mid-January, NARA received 15 boxes from Trump. [19:55.440 --> 20:02.960] That's 15 boxes after NARA waited eight months. More importantly, after those 15 boxes went to [20:02.960 --> 20:09.760] NARA, Trump still retained more than 80 boxes. According to grand jury testimony, well after [20:09.760 --> 20:13.200] NARA had requested the return of all documents belonging to the United States government, [20:13.840 --> 20:18.240] Trump was showing people classified documents and telling them the documents were classified. [20:18.240 --> 20:27.680] So clearly he knew what he had. But leaving all those facts aside, Trump's I was busy statement [20:27.680 --> 20:31.120] conveys that he knew he had documents the law required him to turn over to the government, [20:31.120 --> 20:36.640] but simply chose to not make rectifying his illegal acts a priority. And of course, [20:36.640 --> 20:42.480] that goes to the element of willfully retained and it also supports a charge of obstruction. [20:43.280 --> 20:46.480] One of the deflections I've observed is to criticize [20:46.480 --> 20:51.280] Jack Smith. Finding something about which to criticize a career prosecutor isn't difficult. [20:52.000 --> 20:57.760] When you have a setback at work, the world doesn't know about it. When a government prosecutor has a [20:57.760 --> 21:02.400] setback, it's a matter of public record for everyone to see. In short, you can find something [21:02.400 --> 21:07.600] over which to criticize any career prosecutor. I'm not really sure what these folks hope to [21:07.600 --> 21:13.120] accomplish by criticizing Smith. And of course, ultimately, the question of Trump's guilt or [21:13.120 --> 21:18.400] innocence will be determined by a jury with zero regard to who headed up the investigation that [21:18.400 --> 21:24.480] led to the indictment. One of the weirdest criticisms I've heard about Smith is that he's a [21:24.480 --> 21:32.160] leftist. If true, I suppose that would be convenient for certain influencers, but it's not true. [21:32.880 --> 21:37.200] Smith is registered independent and there is nothing in his record that would indicate any [21:37.200 --> 21:43.840] political leaning left or right. Although, when he took over DOJ's public integrity section, [21:43.840 --> 21:48.080] he closed ongoing investigations against Senator John Ensign, Congressman Tom DeLay, [21:48.080 --> 21:55.520] and Congressman Charles Lewis. All Republicans. Another deflection is that Trump did the same [21:55.520 --> 22:01.200] exact thing as Biden and Pence. Remember when I said earlier that I numbered the key points [22:01.200 --> 22:06.960] in the indictment for a reason? This particular assertion is why I numbered them. If you recall, [22:07.200 --> 22:14.240] there were 13 key points. The first one was that Trump took numerous classified documents with him [22:14.240 --> 22:19.920] to his residence, which the law forbade him from doing. As we've discussed earlier, the law forbade [22:19.920 --> 22:26.880] that because Trump, as a former president, was an unauthorized person. If we consider the Biden and [22:26.880 --> 22:32.560] Pence situations, at the time the documents were taken to their homes, they were vice presidents [22:32.560 --> 22:37.840] and as such, they were authorized to be in possession. Of course, after they left office, [22:37.840 --> 22:44.640] they were no longer authorized to possess those documents. But as far as prosecution goes, [22:44.640 --> 22:52.000] we're back to the requirement that unauthorized persons must willfully retain the documents. [22:52.720 --> 22:57.440] When the older classified documents were found to be in their possession, Biden and Pence immediately [22:57.440 --> 23:01.680] instructed their attorneys to work with DOJ to get the documents into the government's possession. [23:02.400 --> 23:08.560] As such, they did not willfully retain them, which is a requirement for prosecution under [23:08.560 --> 23:14.960] 793E. So while one might attempt to claim that allegation number one from the indictment also [23:14.960 --> 23:21.280] applies to Biden and Pence, that simply is not factual. More importantly, there are 12 additional [23:21.280 --> 23:25.200] illegal actions alleged against Trump, none of which were committed by Biden or Pence when older [23:25.200 --> 23:31.440] classified documents were found in their possession. In short, the claim that Pence and Biden did the [23:31.440 --> 23:39.200] same thing as Trump is not factual. We've gone through a lot of information today, so [23:40.240 --> 23:46.320] can we get real for a moment? Can we talk about the true bottom line of this entire thing? [23:47.440 --> 23:52.720] You're probably unaware that whenever an investigation focuses on classified documents, [23:52.720 --> 23:57.360] the part of the Department of Justice that handles that is the National Security Division, [23:57.360 --> 24:02.080] which includes the counterintelligence section. The men and women who work in DOJ's National [24:02.080 --> 24:07.680] Security Division go up against the most brilliant minds in foreign intelligence services across [24:07.680 --> 24:12.480] the globe. Obviously, they have to be incredibly sharp to go up against the best minds of America's [24:12.480 --> 24:18.880] adversaries. In other words, the men and women who work there are not to be trifled with, [24:18.880 --> 24:26.000] yet that is exactly what Trump did. To put it bluntly, Trump was indicted because he tried to [24:26.000 --> 24:33.040] hoodwink DOJ's National Security Division. Earlier, I mentioned DOJ had visited Mar-a-Lago with [24:33.040 --> 24:39.280] Trump's permission. That visit took place on June 3, 2022, and the DOJ attorney who showed up that [24:39.280 --> 24:44.320] day was none other than Jay Bratt, who has been in charge of the U.S. government's counterintelligence [24:44.320 --> 24:52.080] section for years. Bratt has seen it all. He's seen every trick in the book for years. [24:52.240 --> 25:00.160] No one is going to fool Bratt. So, let me put this as plainly as anyone can say it. [25:01.200 --> 25:08.560] You do not fuck around with Jay Bratt. When Bratt walks into the room, you tell the truth, [25:08.560 --> 25:12.800] the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, or you go to prison. There is no argument, [25:12.800 --> 25:17.600] no equivocation, no coulda, woulda, shoulda. You tell Bratt the truth, or you go to prison. [25:17.920 --> 25:25.280] You go to prison. Period. Trump didn't do that. Rather than tell Bratt the truth, [25:25.280 --> 25:30.080] during Bratt's June 3 visit to Mar-a-Lago, Trump lied to Bratt, telling him the boxes he was shown [25:30.080 --> 25:34.480] in the storage room were the only boxes from the White House remaining at Mar-a-Lago. [25:35.120 --> 25:40.240] According to grand jury testimony, the truth was Trump had ordered most of the boxes containing [25:40.240 --> 25:45.600] classified material moved to other locations on the property, so Bratt would not see them, [25:45.680 --> 25:52.640] and Trump could keep them. Trump's actions on June 3 support the element of willfully retaining, [25:52.640 --> 26:00.560] as well as an obstruction charge. The one guy in the entire U.S. government you never want to lie [26:00.560 --> 26:07.920] to, at least if you'd like to continue breathing free air, is Bratt. And Trump lied to him. [26:08.720 --> 26:17.280] No one made Trump do that. He chose it. That's the bottom line of what's going on here. Trump [26:17.280 --> 26:21.440] was indicted because for months he attempted to mislead Justice Department investigators from the [26:21.440 --> 26:27.040] National Security Division, and then he straight up lied to Jay Bratt about his possession of [26:27.040 --> 26:32.960] classified documents. There is a wide spectrum of feelings about Donald Trump. Sentiments range [26:32.960 --> 26:37.360] from viewing him as the worst thing that ever happened to the presidency, to people thinking [26:37.360 --> 26:43.440] so highly of him that they'd be okay with him being president for life. No matter where you are [26:43.440 --> 26:47.920] on that spectrum, I'd like to know what you think about this type of objective look at the indictment. [26:47.920 --> 26:53.120] I'm not asking whether you think Trump is innocent or guilty. I'm asking what your feelings are [26:53.120 --> 26:58.400] about this kind of analysis of the facts. As an example, if you're one of those folks who [26:58.400 --> 27:05.760] support Trump passionately, did today's presentation anger you? If you're closer [27:05.760 --> 27:10.160] to the other end of the spectrum, do you feel you got more from this assessment than you do from [27:10.160 --> 27:14.320] the dominant media? No matter what camp you're in, I'd appreciate you putting your thoughts in the [27:14.320 --> 27:20.160] comments. In the introduction, I mentioned that law and how America's legal system works is a [27:20.160 --> 27:25.280] specialized field concerning which the vast majority of Americans know very little. Perhaps [27:25.280 --> 27:29.280] this presentation made you more aware of that reality than you were before we spent this time [27:29.280 --> 27:34.720] together today. One of the areas in which this lack of knowledge is most disturbing is the American [27:34.720 --> 27:41.600] people acquiescing to the government's big lie about the income tax. It's estimated that 142 [27:41.600 --> 27:47.840] million Americans file a Form 1040 every year and tens of millions of businesses file Form 1120. [27:48.400 --> 27:53.440] Let me give you some rough estimates concerning how many should be filing those returns based [27:53.440 --> 28:00.720] on what U.S. tax law really says rather than the false fear-driven narrative blindly accepted by [28:00.720 --> 28:06.880] most Americans. Of those 142 million people who file Form 1040 every year for no better reason [28:06.880 --> 28:14.480] than they've never read a word of tax law, probably less than 100,000 have actually been made liable [28:14.480 --> 28:21.680] by U.S. tax law and are required to file. The other 141,900,000 Americans file and pay because [28:21.680 --> 28:27.440] they believe a lie. The same is true of the tens of millions of businesses that file every year. [28:27.440 --> 28:34.400] Probably less than 10,000 are required to file or pay based on what the law really says. I've [28:34.400 --> 28:38.320] always marveled at how successful the U.S. government has been at terrifying Americans [28:38.320 --> 28:44.400] into paying a tax that has never been imposed on them and being so fearful that many refuse to even [28:44.400 --> 28:50.480] look at what the law really says. Imagine, if you will, a government being so successful at creating [28:50.480 --> 28:58.400] fear based on disinformation that people in the home of the brave are literally too scared to read [28:58.400 --> 29:03.520] the truth with their own eyes. There's a lot appearing in the media and on social media these [29:03.520 --> 29:11.840] days about issues such as gender fluidity, trans folks, drag shows, and so forth. I would suggest [29:11.840 --> 29:17.120] to you American is at much greater risk from moral cowards than from a guy dressing up like a woman [29:17.200 --> 29:22.880] and dancing on stage. Sure, the guy dressed like a woman is actually a man with testicles, [29:22.880 --> 29:28.080] but the man who is so fearful he refuses to stand up for his rights against government propaganda [29:28.080 --> 29:33.440] in my view has no testicles at all. And while we're talking about testicles, the number of women [29:33.440 --> 29:38.160] purchasing income tax-shattering them has soared over the last few years. Thank you, ladies. In [29:38.160 --> 29:43.360] other words, American women are growing balls for freedom and liberty while lots of men have lost [29:43.360 --> 29:48.880] theirs to government-induced fears. Here's a comment made on social media by a reader just [29:48.880 --> 29:56.320] about a week ago. Ty said, best damn book I've ever read. A bag of mixed emotions as you turn the [29:56.320 --> 30:02.000] pages. Pissed off, hatred, rage, yet grateful for the years of research a patriot undertook to [30:02.000 --> 30:08.240] enlighten those who always knew the scam but couldn't grasp the legal fraud. Close quote. [30:08.240 --> 30:13.120] So which are you? The fearful guy or the one who wants to know the truth? After all, [30:13.120 --> 30:18.800] you can't decide which path is right or best for you if you wallow in fear-based ignorance, [30:18.800 --> 30:24.400] right? You can only make a choice, whatever choice that ends up being, after you know the [30:24.400 --> 30:30.960] facts. Fortunately, income tax-shattering the miss makes it so easy for you. In 13 years, [30:30.960 --> 30:35.120] income tax-shattering the miss has never gotten less than four and a half stars with most ratings [30:35.120 --> 30:39.920] being five star. As I've read the reviews from readers who give it four and a half stars, [30:39.920 --> 30:46.080] they say it's because they had to read certain parts more than once. I understand. When a person [30:46.080 --> 30:53.120] has been brainwashed by government disinformation, government propaganda, his entire life I get that [30:53.120 --> 30:59.520] it may take reading certain parts more than once to unfuck his brain. Here's another reader comment. [31:00.080 --> 31:05.200] Hey Dave, just wanted to say thank you for writing your book. I got it Friday and finished it [31:05.200 --> 31:11.200] yesterday. It was amazingly clear and explained so much. I've had a discussion with our company [31:11.200 --> 31:15.840] accountant at HR today and the accountant was blown away and said that it all makes sense. He [31:15.840 --> 31:23.600] said he's buying the book today. Again, thank you. Close quote. So again, which are you? Are you [31:23.600 --> 31:29.120] petrified with fear even if you tell yourself you're not? Or are you one of the people who are part [31:29.120 --> 31:34.880] of the home of the brave? If you're the latter, this is an exceptional time to learn the truth [31:34.880 --> 31:40.400] right now because income tax shattering the miss is 15% off. To get that discount, all you need to [31:40.400 --> 31:46.320] is enter the coupon code OWNIT. The code and the link, they're in the notes. Also, if you purchase [31:46.320 --> 31:52.000] income tax shattering the miss and body science together, you'll get 15% off income tax shattering [31:52.000 --> 31:59.600] the miss and free shipping on your order. So what is body science? I'll answer that briefly. I don't [31:59.600 --> 32:04.400] know if you're aware that the American people are the most diseased people in all of human [32:04.400 --> 32:11.920] history. And here's the kicker. That is not happenstance. It's intentional. And much like [32:11.920 --> 32:16.400] the income tax, most Americans believe what they've been told about human physiology for [32:16.400 --> 32:22.400] decades. It seemingly never occurs to them that a coalition of government and various trillion [32:22.400 --> 32:28.560] dollar industries have literally set out to make you sick. The government lies about virtually [32:28.560 --> 32:34.400] everything, but it wouldn't lie about that, right? It wouldn't lie with the intent of making [32:34.400 --> 32:43.120] the American people sicker and sicker, right? Body science provides you with hardcore evidence [32:43.760 --> 32:48.640] showing that is exactly what they've been doing. It also shows you how human physiology [32:48.640 --> 32:53.360] really works, how the hundred trillion cells of your body are genetically coded to operate, [32:53.360 --> 32:57.920] and allows you to compare the truth with their lies. Once you have the facts, [32:58.480 --> 33:03.600] the ball is in your court. Here's a reader comment about body science. Steve said, [33:03.600 --> 33:07.760] The best thing anyone can do is first read your book Body Science. Just like a car, [33:07.760 --> 33:13.120] before you can fix it, you must understand how it works. Same goes with your body. Plus, [33:13.120 --> 33:17.680] you have to also understand everything you've ever been told about weight loss and your diet [33:17.840 --> 33:24.960] is 99% lie. Once you put those two things together, then you can fix your body. Without them, [33:24.960 --> 33:28.400] you are pretty much wasting your time and probably your money. So if you are serious [33:28.400 --> 33:33.520] about fixing your body, get Dave's book. You will thank him later. Close quote. [33:33.520 --> 33:37.520] To get 15% off income tax shattering the miss and free shipping on your order, [33:37.520 --> 33:42.960] grab the two book bundle that includes Body Science. For the bundle, use the coupon code [33:42.960 --> 33:47.760] freebie the code and the link to that bundle are down in the notes. Purchasing income tax [33:47.760 --> 33:53.280] shattering this and body science also supports me being here for you with these thought provoking [33:53.280 --> 34:10.800] presentations. Please share this vodcast everywhere. Thank you so much for being here and take care.