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[00:00.000 --> 00:10.000]  Time to use those critical thinking skills.
[00:10.000 --> 00:13.000]  Welcome to Medically Unbiased.
[00:13.000 --> 00:15.960]  Hello and welcome back to Medically Unbiased.
[00:15.960 --> 00:22.000]  As always, I'm your host, Tyler, here with a good friend of mine, Dave Champion.
[00:22.000 --> 00:27.360]  I actually was able to contact him, meet up with him, and we scheduled some time out of
[00:27.360 --> 00:35.360]  our busy lives to sit down and discuss all things COVID and the bullshit that ensues with COVID.
[00:35.360 --> 00:37.360]  So, hey, Dave, how are you doing?
[00:37.360 --> 00:38.360]  Great, how are you?
[00:38.360 --> 00:39.360]  Doing good.
[00:39.360 --> 00:41.360]  I love the thought about the busy lives.
[00:41.360 --> 00:42.360]  Yeah, no lie.
[00:42.360 --> 00:43.360]  Yeah, right?
[00:43.360 --> 00:44.360]  The fact that we're pulling this off.
[00:44.360 --> 00:47.360]  It's very, yeah, it's very unique.
[00:47.360 --> 00:50.360]  As much as I've known Dave, what, for 10, 15 years now?
[00:50.360 --> 00:51.360]  Something like that.
[00:51.360 --> 00:52.360]  It's been a while.
[00:52.360 --> 00:56.360]  So I want to introduce Dave, but my problem is I don't really understand, I don't know
[00:56.360 --> 00:57.360]  his accomplishments.
[00:57.360 --> 01:02.360]  I'm not going to list Dave as a, well, you did this and you went to this school and I
[01:02.360 --> 01:03.360]  don't know Dave that way.
[01:03.360 --> 01:08.360]  I met Dave at the bar when we were dancing and BSing and having a good time.
[01:08.360 --> 01:13.360]  And the more we talked, the more we became friends, the more we learned about each other.
[01:13.360 --> 01:16.360]  And life, we're just kind of cut from similar cloths.
[01:16.360 --> 01:18.360]  Dave's a no bullshit guy.
[01:18.360 --> 01:21.360]  He's going to give it to you straight here on the podcast.
[01:22.360 --> 01:28.360]  He's done a ton of research on COVID, on different medications, on what's happening in the world.
[01:28.360 --> 01:31.360]  And he's really knowledgeable in the political sphere.
[01:31.360 --> 01:37.360]  So even though we're trying to be apolitical on this show, because I obviously lean a little
[01:37.360 --> 01:42.360]  more right on some subjects and a little more left on some subjects, Dave, I think, splits
[01:42.360 --> 01:44.360]  the hairs right down the middle too.
[01:44.360 --> 01:49.360]  I think he leans right on kind of the fiscal policy and left on the social policy and a
[01:49.360 --> 01:50.360]  lot of stuff.
[01:50.360 --> 01:55.360]  So, I mean, it's going to be a good middle ground for us to talk about COVID, some of
[01:55.360 --> 01:59.360]  the policies being enacted and some of the BS that's going on in the world.
[01:59.360 --> 02:00.360]  All right.
[02:00.360 --> 02:01.360]  So now it's my turn to introduce.
[02:01.360 --> 02:02.360]  Oh, this is scary.
[02:02.360 --> 02:06.360]  To introduce Tyler to my audience, because this podcast is going to go up on my podcast
[02:06.360 --> 02:07.360]  channel as well.
[02:07.360 --> 02:08.360]  That's right.
[02:08.360 --> 02:09.360]  Okay.
[02:09.360 --> 02:10.360]  So for my audience.
[02:10.360 --> 02:11.360]  And what's your podcast?
[02:11.360 --> 02:12.360]  Tell people where to find you.
[02:12.360 --> 02:14.360]  Just Dave Champion, Dr. Reality.
[02:14.360 --> 02:17.360]  They can go to any of their preferred podcast apps.
[02:17.360 --> 02:18.360]  Okay.
[02:18.360 --> 02:21.360]  You can just enter Dave Champion or DR Reality.
[02:21.360 --> 02:22.360]  Dr. Reality.
[02:22.360 --> 02:24.360]  I like it.
[02:24.360 --> 02:27.360]  So yeah, I met Tyler a while back.
[02:27.360 --> 02:29.360]  Like you said, like a decade ago.
[02:29.360 --> 02:31.360]  Yeah, it was a while ago.
[02:31.360 --> 02:33.360]  Wasn't sure I liked him at first.
[02:33.360 --> 02:35.360]  You have the same response to me.
[02:35.360 --> 02:38.360]  Which I think is really common with guys who become good friends at first.
[02:38.360 --> 02:40.360]  It's like, what the fuck?
[02:40.360 --> 02:46.360]  I think one of the things that Tyler and I first discovered that we had in common is
[02:46.360 --> 02:49.360]  neither one of us suffers fools well.
[02:49.360 --> 02:50.360]  No.
[02:50.360 --> 02:51.360]  We just don't have that.
[02:51.360 --> 02:54.360]  Whatever that skill set is, neither one of us have it.
[02:54.360 --> 02:59.360]  But the thing I wanted to say about Tyler is he's a renaissance man and a man of accomplishment.
[02:59.360 --> 03:04.360]  It doesn't matter whether you're talking about remodeling a home, whether you're building
[03:04.360 --> 03:08.360]  furniture, whether you want to produce knives, which is something he has done.
[03:08.360 --> 03:13.360]  Whether you want to be treated for your cardiology issues.
[03:13.360 --> 03:15.360]  It doesn't matter.
[03:15.360 --> 03:20.360]  I mean, anything, for all the years I've known Tyler, I think this is the important part
[03:20.360 --> 03:25.360]  I want my audience to know, is for all the years I've known Tyler, if Tyler wants to
[03:25.360 --> 03:28.360]  go out and be good at something, he just does.
[03:28.360 --> 03:34.360]  If he didn't know Jack about it yesterday, within a couple months he's going to know
[03:34.360 --> 03:36.360]  everything there is to know about it.
[03:36.360 --> 03:41.360]  And within a couple months beyond that, he's going to give you something akin to expert
[03:41.360 --> 03:43.360]  service in that area.
[03:44.360 --> 03:46.360]  So I think that's a really important thing.
[03:46.360 --> 03:49.360]  And I think you have quite a bit of formal education.
[03:49.360 --> 03:51.360]  Yeah, too much probably.
[03:51.360 --> 03:58.360]  But I think the things that impress me most about you are not those areas in which you
[03:58.360 --> 04:00.360]  have received formal education.
[04:00.360 --> 04:03.360]  It's those things where you said, I want to know about this, and you've just gone out
[04:03.360 --> 04:05.360]  and become damn near an expert at them.
[04:05.360 --> 04:06.360]  Well, thank you.
[04:06.360 --> 04:07.360]  That's very kind of you to say.
[04:07.360 --> 04:11.360]  I mean, you've kind of helped me in some of those regards when it comes to, especially
[04:11.360 --> 04:16.360]  shooting, because I really wanted to get good at shooting, carrying a gun, being proficient
[04:16.360 --> 04:18.360]  at using my weapon.
[04:18.360 --> 04:22.360]  And people who don't know you don't know you are a master firearms instructor.
[04:22.360 --> 04:29.360]  So it was a godsend to be able to pick your brain and then have you take me out to the
[04:29.360 --> 04:34.360]  middle of the desert and show me and teach me and fix my form and fix my stance and make
[04:34.360 --> 04:38.360]  me look like I knew what the hell I was doing with a firearm.
[04:38.360 --> 04:43.360]  The training was epic, and I probably should have spent thousands of dollars on it, but
[04:43.360 --> 04:46.360]  it means that we were friends and it worked out in my favor.
[04:46.360 --> 04:47.360]  Happy to do it.
[04:47.360 --> 04:52.360]  One thing I want your audience to know before we get going is that I wrote a book called
[04:52.360 --> 04:58.360]  Body Science, which is a book on physiology with a strong emphasis on nutritional physiology.
[04:58.360 --> 05:01.360]  But it's a general human physiology book.
[05:01.360 --> 05:05.360]  And I think it's important for your audience to know that I am a published author in that
[05:05.360 --> 05:07.360]  field before we start talking about nutrition.
[05:08.360 --> 05:13.360]  That was going to come up because I want people to know, and let's do it now and we'll bring
[05:13.360 --> 05:14.360]  it up again later.
[05:14.360 --> 05:21.360]  But the book Body Science, I proofread the book before it even went to print.
[05:21.360 --> 05:24.360]  And I feel very blessed that I was able to do that.
[05:24.360 --> 05:28.360]  And the cool thing about it was that everything in the book is accurate.
[05:28.360 --> 05:33.360]  It's highly researched, highly backed up by data.
[05:33.360 --> 05:35.360]  There's no hyperbole.
[05:35.360 --> 05:37.360]  There's no conjecture.
[05:37.360 --> 05:39.360]  There's no speculation.
[05:39.360 --> 05:41.360]  It is factual from beginning to end.
[05:41.360 --> 05:45.360]  And I think the important thing for anybody who says, oh, that sounds interesting, is
[05:45.360 --> 05:51.360]  for them to understand that after you said those kind of things, it also completely cuts
[05:51.360 --> 05:53.360]  across the establishment grade.
[05:53.360 --> 05:57.360]  Oh, yeah, because it's not doing the same thing that the American College of Cardiology
[05:57.360 --> 05:59.360]  is doing, like, oh, you have to take a cholesterol pill.
[05:59.360 --> 06:04.360]  Like, this is going to explain to society how to help fix their problems without needing
[06:04.360 --> 06:05.360]  medications.
[06:05.360 --> 06:09.360]  Yeah, and the physiology behind how it fixes the problem.
[06:09.360 --> 06:10.360]  And why?
[06:10.360 --> 06:14.360]  Yeah, one of the things I tell people all the time about body science is when you close
[06:14.360 --> 06:21.360]  that final page, you will never, ever be able to be fooled or misled by the establishment,
[06:21.360 --> 06:24.360]  whether we're talking about government, whether we're talking about people like the American
[06:24.360 --> 06:28.360]  Heart Association, the American Diabetes Association, whether we're talking about the media, you
[06:28.360 --> 06:32.360]  will never, ever, ever, ever, ever be able to get fooled by them again.
[06:32.360 --> 06:33.360]  Right.
[06:33.360 --> 06:34.360]  Right.
[06:34.360 --> 06:35.360]  They can't pull the wool over your eyes.
[06:35.360 --> 06:36.360]  Never again.
[06:36.360 --> 06:37.360]  Never.
[06:37.360 --> 06:38.360]  You're going to have all the info.
[06:38.360 --> 06:39.360]  So how do they find this book?
[06:39.360 --> 06:42.360]  Oh, they can go to my website, which is DrReality.
[06:42.360 --> 06:48.360]  Again, that's just drreality, no space, dot news, and then just click on store and have
[06:48.360 --> 06:49.360]  it.
[06:49.360 --> 06:50.360]  Perfect.
[06:50.360 --> 06:52.360]  So hopefully we can get some people coming to the store and checking it out because it's
[06:52.360 --> 06:53.360]  a great book.
[06:53.360 --> 06:57.360]  I mean, it's a very important piece of work, and I think people should check it out.
[06:57.360 --> 06:58.360]  Yeah.
[06:58.360 --> 07:03.360]  So to the COVID thing that we were talking about pre the restart of this recording.
[07:03.360 --> 07:08.360]  Dave and I kind of talked last week about what we were going to discuss, and then we
[07:08.360 --> 07:11.360]  were at the last minute deciding whether we were even going to be able to get together
[07:11.360 --> 07:13.120]  because we were both super busy.
[07:13.120 --> 07:20.000]  But in the list of items, I think one of the things we need to go over is the ADE section
[07:20.000 --> 07:21.480]  of COVID.
[07:21.480 --> 07:25.780]  So there's a lot of people worried, and I say a lot of people because it's hard to quantify
[07:25.780 --> 07:26.780]  how many.
[07:27.200 --> 07:30.700]  I know it's more than one and less than a billion.
[07:30.700 --> 07:32.700]  It's a good estimate.
[07:32.700 --> 07:33.700]  Yeah.
[07:33.700 --> 07:34.700]  Good round number.
[07:34.700 --> 07:35.700]  You're not wrong.
[07:35.700 --> 07:36.700]  No.
[07:36.700 --> 07:37.700]  I'm like a weatherman.
[07:37.700 --> 07:38.700]  Right?
[07:38.700 --> 07:39.700]  I can't be wrong.
[07:39.700 --> 07:40.700]  Somewhere between 30 and 90 today.
[07:40.700 --> 07:41.700]  Yeah.
[07:41.700 --> 07:42.700]  Partly cloudy, sunny.
[07:42.700 --> 07:44.220]  It's awesome.
[07:44.220 --> 07:48.760]  So the ADE stands for what, Dave?
[07:48.760 --> 07:51.100]  Antibody Dependent Enhancement.
[07:51.420 --> 08:00.020]  I know Fauci talked about this in a podcast, in a video that I saw on him maybe a year
[08:00.020 --> 08:07.140]  or two ago about antibody dependent enhancement long before COVID was even a thing.
[08:07.140 --> 08:13.900]  He had discussed it and said how it's so rare, so can't ever happen, would never happen,
[08:13.900 --> 08:15.460]  blah, blah, blah.
[08:15.580 --> 08:22.420]  I think there's a lot of questions regarding this vaccine and whether or not it's causing
[08:22.420 --> 08:28.540]  people to be either more infectious or the antibodies that they supposedly have in their
[08:28.540 --> 08:32.900]  system from the spike protein that's being inserted through the mRNA vaccine, if that's
[08:32.900 --> 08:35.740]  causing them to then be more sick.
[08:35.740 --> 08:40.820]  Because we've seen higher numbers now than prior to vaccines.
[08:40.820 --> 08:43.020]  So ADE is an interesting subject.
[08:43.060 --> 08:48.420]  I think it's important for your audience to know that every single coronavirus vaccine
[08:48.420 --> 08:54.500]  that was ever attempted, including SARS, not COV-2, but the original SARS, MERS.
[08:54.500 --> 08:56.540]  06 or whatever, yeah.
[08:56.540 --> 09:04.140]  Every single coronavirus vaccine attempt or something similar genetically speaking to
[09:04.140 --> 09:11.700]  coronavirus, every single one was stopped because of ADE.
[09:11.700 --> 09:20.260]  It has typically been thought if anybody becomes more easily infected after vaccination or
[09:20.260 --> 09:25.900]  after vaccination they become infected and become more ill than they would have without
[09:25.900 --> 09:35.420]  vaccination that if anybody, more than 100% or 1%, experience ADE, then the vaccine is
[09:35.420 --> 09:37.060]  not good.
[09:37.060 --> 09:40.460]  The standards up until SARS-CoV-2, the standards were...
[09:41.420 --> 09:49.540]  Let's just say the standards prior to 2001, prior to January 2001 when this vaccine rolled
[09:49.540 --> 09:54.260]  out, the standards were if that even shows up it's bad, period.
[09:54.260 --> 09:55.060]  Exactly.
[09:55.060 --> 10:04.220]  So with the mRNA vaccine, that seemed to be thrown out the window and that's just not
[10:04.220 --> 10:06.140]  my opinion.
[10:06.140 --> 10:10.500]  In the information that Pfizer submitted to the FDA seeking its emergency use authorization
[10:10.500 --> 10:17.980]  for its vaccine, it listed ADE as one of the potential adverse reactions.
[10:17.980 --> 10:24.460]  In the FDA's documentation evaluating the information from Pfizer, the FDA acknowledges
[10:24.460 --> 10:30.300]  that that is a concern and says, I'm sorry, I've been looking at this stuff a long time
[10:30.300 --> 10:34.060]  and people are going to be shocked and I'm laughing because I'm like, this is just so
[10:34.060 --> 10:35.060]  absurd.
[10:35.060 --> 10:36.540]  It's funny because it's absurd.
[10:36.540 --> 10:37.820]  It's funny because it's BS.
[10:37.820 --> 10:46.660]  The FDA said it is a concern and we will have to begin looking at that concern after the
[10:46.660 --> 10:48.460]  vaccine is approved.
[10:48.460 --> 10:52.780]  Okay, so now, hang on a second, I want to be very clear, emergency use authorization
[10:52.780 --> 10:53.780]  is not approval.
[10:53.780 --> 10:54.780]  Right.
[10:54.780 --> 10:55.780]  Okay.
[10:55.780 --> 10:59.140]  So somewhere in the range here in the United States, about 200 million people received
[10:59.140 --> 11:02.140]  the vaccine while it was under emergency use authorization.
[11:02.140 --> 11:04.700]  Still under emergency use authorization.
[11:05.340 --> 11:11.220]  The stuff that they approved, so let's clear this up, the stuff that was approved is not
[11:11.220 --> 11:12.220]  being used right now.
[11:12.220 --> 11:13.220]  It's not available in the United States.
[11:13.220 --> 11:15.260]  It's not even available in the United States.
[11:15.260 --> 11:16.260]  Yes.
[11:16.260 --> 11:20.620]  However, Pfizer claims that in every way other than the label, no, I'm not saying this is
[11:20.620 --> 11:21.620]  true.
[11:21.620 --> 11:22.620]  Right.
[11:22.620 --> 11:23.620]  I'm just saying with-
[11:23.620 --> 11:24.620]  Other than the name on the labels.
[11:24.620 --> 11:27.020]  Pfizer is saying that the only difference between-
[11:27.020 --> 11:29.020]  Cormannity or whatever they call it.
[11:29.020 --> 11:34.980]  It's mRNA vaccine in, for instance, Australia, and here the only difference is the name that
[11:34.980 --> 11:36.340]  appears on the label.
[11:36.340 --> 11:37.340]  That's their narrative.
[11:37.340 --> 11:42.540]  Well, the only difference is that you can't sue Pfizer if you get sick under an EUA.
[11:42.540 --> 11:44.460]  Right, right, right.
[11:44.460 --> 11:48.420]  If it's a fully functional authorized vaccine, you can sue them.
[11:48.420 --> 11:49.420]  Yes.
[11:49.420 --> 11:56.020]  So nobody in the US can sue Pfizer or Moderna or Johnson & Johnson because they're all currently
[11:56.020 --> 11:57.020]  in EUA.
[11:57.020 --> 12:01.100]  Now, when they approved this vaccine, they just extended the EUA for the current vaccine
[12:01.100 --> 12:05.100]  that's being used because Cormannity or Cormannity, I don't know how the fuck can you say it.
[12:05.100 --> 12:06.100]  Yeah, I have the same problem.
[12:06.100 --> 12:07.100]  Okay.
[12:07.100 --> 12:10.100]  I swear they throw scrabble towels on the table and it shows up and they're like, oh,
[12:10.100 --> 12:11.100]  that looks like a good name.
[12:11.100 --> 12:13.980]  I think that's how they come up with names for drugs because it doesn't make any sense.
[12:13.980 --> 12:16.340]  No one can say it or spell it or whatever.
[12:16.340 --> 12:17.340]  It's ridiculous.
[12:17.340 --> 12:21.580]  So whatever the name of that drug is, is not being utilized in the US right now.
[12:21.580 --> 12:24.100]  So I didn't mean to digress, but I thought we had to fix that.
[12:24.100 --> 12:25.100]  Absolutely.
[12:25.180 --> 12:28.740]  Let's go back to ADE and what the FDA said.
[12:28.740 --> 12:35.280]  They said that we can look at this, we can do research on this after approval.
[12:35.280 --> 12:42.820]  So what we're saying is 200 million Americans were injected as a lab experiment.
[12:42.820 --> 12:50.080]  And then the FDA was saying sometime after that, then we can look at ADE.
[12:50.080 --> 12:54.700]  This is completely flipping the safety protocols on the head.
[12:54.700 --> 13:02.180]  In every other attempt that was terminated, they tested for ADE well before.
[13:02.180 --> 13:06.380]  They'd even submitted any information, actually they never did submit information to the FDA
[13:06.380 --> 13:07.380]  because of ADE.
[13:07.380 --> 13:08.380]  Correct.
[13:08.380 --> 13:09.380]  They stopped the process.
[13:09.380 --> 13:10.380]  Yes, exactly.
[13:10.380 --> 13:13.980]  They stood on the brakes once they looked at the ADE.
[13:13.980 --> 13:16.060]  Here they said, what do kids do?
[13:16.060 --> 13:19.380]  They slap their hands over theirs and go la la la la la.
[13:19.380 --> 13:23.980]  So that's what Pfizer and the FDA agreed to do for ADE.
[13:24.300 --> 13:29.380]  Whether it's making people more receptive to infection, whether it's once they become
[13:29.380 --> 13:34.940]  infected post-vaccination, if they become more ill, and by the way, we know that's
[13:34.940 --> 13:35.940]  not happening with everybody.
[13:35.940 --> 13:38.500]  Let me be clear about that.
[13:38.500 --> 13:45.460]  But if that happens to a percentage, whatever that percentage is, with the mRNA vaccine,
[13:45.460 --> 13:46.980]  we don't care about that.
[13:46.980 --> 13:50.180]  We cared in the past, but we don't care now.
[13:50.180 --> 13:52.380]  Which is weird.
[13:52.420 --> 13:55.140]  I don't understand why things change so drastically.
[13:55.140 --> 14:00.860]  Just in functionality of medicine, coming from a medical perspective, because I practice
[14:00.860 --> 14:02.460]  medicine all the time.
[14:02.460 --> 14:05.380]  So coming from that perspective, why did so much change?
[14:05.380 --> 14:08.180]  And I think there's doctors out there asking similar questions.
[14:08.180 --> 14:09.180]  May I answer that?
[14:09.180 --> 14:10.180]  Yeah, please.
[14:10.180 --> 14:11.180]  Okay.
[14:11.180 --> 14:12.180]  So I have a long time good friend.
[14:12.180 --> 14:20.220]  We used to work together decades ago, and he's, I'll just say, very well off now.
[14:20.220 --> 14:21.500]  And he does a lot of investing.
[14:21.620 --> 14:27.500]  We were on the phone a couple months ago when he told me that he is a longtime investor
[14:27.500 --> 14:30.780]  in mRNA technology.
[14:30.780 --> 14:33.660]  And that he follows up on his investments.
[14:33.660 --> 14:35.900]  He doesn't just throw the money and then wait for something to happen.
[14:35.900 --> 14:37.400]  He follows up.
[14:37.400 --> 14:40.300]  He wants to know what's going on with his money.
[14:40.300 --> 14:50.060]  And he told me that in the case of something like a pandemic or an epidemic, if they could
[14:50.460 --> 14:59.780]  get authorization to use mRNA vaccines public across a wide spectrum, as we've seen here,
[14:59.780 --> 15:03.100]  it would push mRNA technology forward by a decade.
[15:03.100 --> 15:06.500]  Now, that was just from one source.
[15:06.500 --> 15:09.700]  Probably about three weeks after he and I had that conversation on the phone, I happened
[15:09.700 --> 15:15.240]  to stumble across the video of Fauci speaking at a conference several years ago.
[15:15.240 --> 15:26.240]  He's up on stage with a couple of other speakers, and he's saying, if we have a pandemic and
[15:26.240 --> 15:32.680]  we use, we can on a wholesale basis in the public use mRNA technology vaccines, we can
[15:32.680 --> 15:35.840]  push this technology forward by a decade.
[15:35.840 --> 15:40.920]  So I've got my longtime friend, who's one of the most honest and forthright men I know.
[15:41.240 --> 15:45.880]  We've got him saying it in the mode of looking after his investments.
[15:45.880 --> 15:51.680]  Then we have Fauci as a senior NIH executive giving the same narrative.
[15:51.680 --> 15:56.600]  If we can do this, we can push this technology forward by 10 years.
[15:56.600 --> 16:04.440]  So I would say I have high confidence that that's exactly what's changed.
[16:04.520 --> 16:13.080]  mRNA technology, as far as vaccines are concerned, is intriguing.
[16:13.080 --> 16:19.000]  What it does is it creates a platform that is, I'm just going to throw out an arbitrary
[16:19.000 --> 16:24.320]  number here for the point of illustration, a platform that is 95% compatible with every
[16:24.320 --> 16:28.000]  single contagion that may pop up.
[16:28.000 --> 16:30.600]  So basically, they've got this platform.
[16:30.600 --> 16:31.960]  Easily used by the body.
[16:31.960 --> 16:32.960]  Right.
[16:32.960 --> 16:39.840]  So what they do is they adjust the 5%, and it's incredibly cheap to make.
[16:39.840 --> 16:42.960]  Most profitable here from Pfizer and Moderna and Johnson.
[16:42.960 --> 16:48.640]  Because the 95% has already been approved, it's just a standing platform.
[16:48.640 --> 16:53.160]  Their view is there'll come a time when everything will be mRNA.
[16:53.160 --> 16:57.720]  So there's going to be no controversy at that point about the 95% platform.
[16:57.720 --> 17:03.120]  So then they don't really need to go through this years-long process to bring a vaccine
[17:03.120 --> 17:04.720]  to market.
[17:04.720 --> 17:09.280]  And their concept is that something pops up in the world of, look, there's a virus we
[17:09.280 --> 17:10.280]  didn't know about.
[17:10.280 --> 17:15.640]  Like SARS-CoV-2 was back in like November in China, November 2019.
[17:15.640 --> 17:19.040]  Back in China, it was like suddenly, by the way, the reason I say November.
[17:19.040 --> 17:20.040]  I'm with you.
[17:20.040 --> 17:21.040]  I'm totally with you.
[17:21.040 --> 17:25.700]  Well, US intelligence sources actually reported on paper that China was having an outbreak
[17:25.700 --> 17:28.180]  in Wuhan in November.
[17:28.180 --> 17:32.780]  They just didn't know until December that it was going to be something we call SARS-CoV-2.
[17:32.780 --> 17:33.780]  Correct.
[17:33.780 --> 17:34.780]  They didn't name it.
[17:34.780 --> 17:35.780]  They just knew there was a problem.
[17:35.780 --> 17:36.780]  Yes.
[17:36.780 --> 17:39.820]  An Intel report was just saying a lot of motherfuckers are getting sick over in Wuhan.
[17:39.820 --> 17:44.180]  Well, and I don't know if you're aware, but in Thailand, they already had seen person
[17:44.180 --> 17:45.700]  to person transmission.
[17:45.700 --> 17:52.620]  So in December, early December of 19, the Minister of Health in Thailand wrote a letter
[17:52.620 --> 17:59.780]  to the WHO and he said to the WHO, we have a new novel virus that's spreading person
[17:59.780 --> 18:02.860]  to person and infecting people and killing them.
[18:02.860 --> 18:08.260]  And the WHO was like, fucking, I'm not listening to you.
[18:08.260 --> 18:13.460]  We are an arm of the Chinese government and we are not listening to Thailand, of anybody.
[18:13.460 --> 18:18.620]  But I saw the letter, not the physical letter, but I saw the copy of it online.
[18:19.380 --> 18:24.460]  And in a previous podcast, I've done an outline of the timeline of COVID and me and one of
[18:24.460 --> 18:30.220]  my friends went all the way back to November and even before because it was found, it's
[18:30.220 --> 18:36.980]  also found in the sewer water, China was treating their sewage because it goes through the bowel.
[18:36.980 --> 18:40.580]  And so they were finding it in the sewage as well.
[18:40.580 --> 18:45.460]  So they were highly treating their sewage water as much as they were worried about respiratory
[18:45.460 --> 18:46.460]  virus.
[18:46.460 --> 18:48.660]  They're treating their sewage on the side of that as well.
[18:48.660 --> 18:49.660]  Lovely.
[18:49.660 --> 18:55.340]  So, I mean, it's a diversion from where we were going, but I mean, the history, I get
[18:55.340 --> 18:58.900]  where you're coming from and my listeners will know if they've listened to that previous
[18:58.900 --> 19:04.220]  podcast, they'll understand that in November 19, that's a rational timeline.
[19:04.220 --> 19:12.540]  So the big thing, what changed their willingness to push things forward without looking at
[19:12.540 --> 19:19.620]  matters such as a question such as ADE is that they're looking, they see the promise
[19:19.620 --> 19:20.620]  of mRNA.
[19:20.620 --> 19:22.780]  They don't know whether it's going to be the realized promise, right?
[19:22.780 --> 19:28.300]  We don't know that yet, but the promise that mRNA supposedly holds is that you're going
[19:28.300 --> 19:32.940]  to have inexpensive, very fast vaccines.
[19:32.940 --> 19:38.540]  I question the inexpensive part, yes, inexpensive to make, and I think people are going to think
[19:38.540 --> 19:41.260]  I'm cynical when I say this, but I really truly believe this.
[19:41.300 --> 19:43.700]  I'm not just trying to be cynical.
[19:43.700 --> 19:49.860]  You know, if it costs Pfizer, say, 15 percent, if an mRNA vaccine costs 15 percent of what
[19:49.860 --> 19:56.460]  it cost to use a traditional old school, to produce a traditional old school vaccine,
[19:56.460 --> 19:59.340]  only a fraction of that savings is going to get passed on to the governments or to the
[19:59.340 --> 20:00.340]  health agencies.
[20:00.340 --> 20:02.300]  Oh, none of it goes to the consumer.
[20:02.300 --> 20:08.460]  So the real thing, the pharmaceutical industry, that is just completely, completely profit
[20:08.460 --> 20:16.380]  driven, they're looking to do something fast, inexpensive, across the board, on any
[20:16.380 --> 20:21.780]  pathogen that pops up and make a shitload more money than they've ever made on vaccines
[20:21.780 --> 20:22.780]  in the past.
[20:22.780 --> 20:23.780]  Come on, man.
[20:23.780 --> 20:27.980]  And of course, I know you want, we don't need to get into this now, but I know you want
[20:27.980 --> 20:28.980]  to talk about regulatory capture.
[20:28.980 --> 20:30.500]  Oh, we can talk about that.
[20:30.500 --> 20:38.940]  So with Big Pharma having achieved regulatory capture over various...
[20:38.940 --> 20:39.940]  For quite a long time now.
[20:39.940 --> 20:42.900]  ...U.S. government agencies, yes.
[20:42.900 --> 20:45.500]  Getting its way is not difficult.
[20:45.500 --> 20:46.900]  No.
[20:46.900 --> 20:54.980]  The Big Pharma in any industry, or any of the Big Pharma companies, I should say, be
[20:54.980 --> 20:58.980]  better to say, is they're already involved in regulatory capture, and we should probably
[20:58.980 --> 21:04.740]  define for the audience what regulatory capture is.
[21:04.740 --> 21:11.140]  But in essence, it's that they're controlling their narrative to the government, because
[21:11.140 --> 21:14.020]  they own all of the functionality of...
[21:14.020 --> 21:18.900]  So they can determine what's going to get proven good and proven bad, and the government's
[21:18.900 --> 21:22.340]  going to be like, oh, well, I guess we have to go with that, because you guys say it works
[21:22.340 --> 21:23.700]  the best.
[21:23.700 --> 21:28.300]  Regulatory capture, I think a good working definition for the audience, is when an industry,
[21:29.140 --> 21:35.980]  an industry or a group of companies that is subject to regulation, ends up arranging their
[21:35.980 --> 21:41.540]  affairs in their legislative context in such a way that they now control the regulatory
[21:41.540 --> 21:44.020]  agency that's supposed to be regulating them.
[21:44.020 --> 21:45.020]  Right.
[21:45.020 --> 21:47.180]  Which telecom did it, railroad's done it.
[21:47.180 --> 21:51.380]  I mean, there's been a ton of industry that's done this, so it's not a new concept.
[21:51.380 --> 21:52.380]  No, it's not.
[21:52.380 --> 21:56.100]  And I would say, regulatory capture...
[21:56.100 --> 21:57.860]  Food industry's done it for a long time.
[21:58.100 --> 22:03.660]  At what point do you say regulatory capture has occurred versus influencing an agency?
[22:03.660 --> 22:05.260]  So I would say...
[22:05.260 --> 22:07.300]  Where's the defining line, in other words?
[22:07.300 --> 22:14.500]  In the areas that I tend to focus on, in terms of physiology, I would say the industries
[22:14.500 --> 22:22.620]  that have hands down, they have complete regulatory capture, is big food, big med, and big pharma.
[22:22.620 --> 22:30.020]  Their control over the agencies that are supposed to be regulating them on our behalf,
[22:30.020 --> 22:34.900]  their control is so complete that they get anything and everything they want, period.
[22:34.900 --> 22:35.900]  True.
[22:35.900 --> 22:36.900]  Full stop.
[22:36.900 --> 22:38.940]  No, that's true.
[22:38.940 --> 22:43.020]  I think part of the industry, when it comes to you were saying how the cost to bring a
[22:43.020 --> 22:46.640]  drug to market, that cost is...
[22:46.640 --> 22:50.500]  It's very expensive to bring a drug to market, and a vaccine is very expensive to bring to
[22:50.540 --> 22:56.780]  market because it's generally, prior to COVID, and I don't even include the flu vaccine in
[22:56.780 --> 23:00.420]  there because it's not a fucking vaccine, I'm sorry, it's not.
[23:00.420 --> 23:02.580]  The polio vaccine was a vaccine.
[23:02.580 --> 23:06.380]  When you got the polio vaccine, you were like, oh, I won't get polio now.
[23:06.380 --> 23:07.380]  That's amazing.
[23:07.380 --> 23:08.380]  Most people.
[23:08.380 --> 23:09.380]  Most people.
[23:09.380 --> 23:10.380]  I won't get polio.
[23:10.380 --> 23:11.380]  I got the vaccine, I won't get polio.
[23:11.380 --> 23:12.380]  Right?
[23:12.380 --> 23:13.380]  Right.
[23:13.380 --> 23:18.780]  When I say most people, 99% of the people won't get polio again, or ever, if they got
[23:18.780 --> 23:19.780]  the vaccine.
[23:20.580 --> 23:21.620]  That works.
[23:21.620 --> 23:22.620]  This isn't that.
[23:22.620 --> 23:23.620]  No.
[23:23.620 --> 23:24.620]  I call this a therapeutic.
[23:24.620 --> 23:30.880]  I call the COVID-19 vaccine a therapeutic because I think we treat people...
[23:30.880 --> 23:31.880]  It's a pre-therapeutic.
[23:31.880 --> 23:35.900]  In other words, well, Pfizer came out with a pill recently, but we'll talk about that
[23:35.900 --> 23:39.380]  in a little bit.
[23:39.380 --> 23:40.380]  We have a pre-therapeutic.
[23:40.380 --> 23:41.380]  In other words...
[23:41.380 --> 23:44.380]  This is going to be like a four-hour podcast, the way you and I go.
[23:44.380 --> 23:45.380]  That's okay.
[23:45.380 --> 23:48.020]  People will talk, we'll listen to it, or you can put it on mute.
[23:48.020 --> 23:54.780]  Both of my listeners will fucking love it.
[23:54.780 --> 23:58.420]  The groups that come out with these drugs, when they spend a ton of money, they're spending
[23:58.420 --> 24:04.100]  money to make a profit later, so you don't come out with Lortab, or you don't come out
[24:04.100 --> 24:06.420]  with Lipitor as a cholesterol drug, let's say.
[24:06.420 --> 24:08.500]  Lipitor is a cholesterol drug, but guess what?
[24:08.500 --> 24:11.700]  Everyone gets fucking Lipitor all of a sudden when you're like 60 years old and your cholesterol
[24:11.700 --> 24:12.700]  is up.
[24:12.700 --> 24:13.700]  No.
[24:13.700 --> 24:17.140]  They can be body science, but no, I'm just saying they're going to get a cholesterol
[24:17.140 --> 24:18.140]  drug.
[24:18.140 --> 24:20.140]  Well, you're going to use that drug, and you're going to take it every day, and you're going
[24:20.140 --> 24:25.140]  to renew it every 30 days, or every 90 days, whatever your renewal period is.
[24:25.140 --> 24:28.420]  You're going to see your doctor every six months to a year, you're going to get that
[24:28.420 --> 24:31.220]  drug again, you're going to do your labs.
[24:31.220 --> 24:38.420]  Those companies get incentivized to make a drug that they use regularly.
[24:38.420 --> 24:39.900]  Yes.
[24:39.900 --> 24:43.860]  Vaccines stereotypically are not that.
[24:43.860 --> 24:46.220]  Vaccines are a one-time dose.
[24:46.220 --> 24:48.980]  You only have, in the US, 330 million people.
[24:48.980 --> 24:52.140]  Except for the current mRNA vaccines.
[24:52.140 --> 25:02.580]  Which is, to me, why the mRNA vaccines were created, and why they wane in their efficacy
[25:02.580 --> 25:06.380]  from the initial time until six months later.
[25:06.380 --> 25:14.020]  If I remember right, Pfizer goes from 95% to 42% within six months.
[25:14.820 --> 25:17.340]  A lot sooner than that.
[25:17.340 --> 25:18.340]  Okay.
[25:18.340 --> 25:24.700]  I know Moderna drops to like 56%, and Johnson & Johnson drops to like 18% efficacious.
[25:24.700 --> 25:31.620]  In other words, they all lose their functionality over time, and whether that's a linear logarithmic
[25:31.620 --> 25:37.060]  scale or a ramped graph, I don't know off the top of my head.
[25:37.060 --> 25:38.060]  It's just chronology.
[25:38.060 --> 25:41.660]  That's why the boosters are coming, because they're going to make more money, and you're
[25:41.660 --> 25:45.460]  going to need boosters every six months, or every three months, or whatever they determine.
[25:45.460 --> 25:47.740]  When does the shit stop?
[25:47.740 --> 25:50.660]  It's continuing on and on and on.
[25:50.660 --> 25:58.140]  We're going to talk about exactly why in a little bit here.
[25:58.140 --> 26:02.060]  To the audience, stay with us, for all two of you.
[26:02.060 --> 26:07.740]  Stay with us, because we're going to get into some really fascinating information about
[26:07.740 --> 26:13.220]  why the mRNA vaccines, you constantly need another injection every six months if you
[26:13.220 --> 26:19.300]  intend to have what they call immunity from the SARS-CoV-2 virus.
[26:19.300 --> 26:20.300]  That's true.
[26:20.300 --> 26:21.300]  We're going to talk about that.
[26:21.300 --> 26:23.820]  We're going to talk about it, but this is going to be a fun podcast, man.
[26:23.820 --> 26:29.180]  I'm actually anxious we got to do this, because I was really, really worried that we wouldn't
[26:29.180 --> 26:32.940]  be able to get together, but now that we are able to get together, this is going to be
[26:32.940 --> 26:33.940]  fun.
[26:33.940 --> 26:34.940]  Let's go to commercial, and then we'll come back.
[27:07.940 --> 27:10.940]  Welcome back to Medically Unbiased.
[27:10.940 --> 27:17.140]  I do have some funny commercials I could throw on here once in a while.
[27:17.140 --> 27:22.900]  I got some of Peter Griffith, actually, or Griffin, actually doing some U.S. postal commercials.
[27:22.900 --> 27:23.900]  It's funny.
[27:23.900 --> 27:26.540]  I don't put them on all the time, but I put them on once in a while.
[27:26.540 --> 27:28.660]  I'm getting better at the running of the buttons.
[27:28.660 --> 27:32.660]  People that listen to my podcast know that I'm a little slow at the button sometimes
[27:32.660 --> 27:33.660]  to make it work.
[27:33.660 --> 27:34.900]  I don't have a producer, people.
[27:35.060 --> 27:39.180]  I don't have the Joe Rogan money to make this thing work.
[27:39.180 --> 27:43.660]  I have me, myself, and I, and all three of us, who are trying to get shit done properly.
[27:43.660 --> 27:45.060]  So this is where we're at.
[27:45.060 --> 27:48.420]  Want to talk about masks for a minute?
[27:48.420 --> 27:52.820]  Or the fact that they're a waste of everyone's effort and time?
[27:52.820 --> 27:58.580]  You know, we're so far along into this event.
[27:58.580 --> 28:05.260]  I think it's important sometimes to bring people's minds back around to fundamentals
[28:05.260 --> 28:11.500]  that they may have lost their grasp on because of all the media propaganda.
[28:11.500 --> 28:13.380]  The forest for the trees problem.
[28:13.380 --> 28:14.380]  Yeah.
[28:14.380 --> 28:17.260]  So I just wanted to reiterate to people.
[28:17.260 --> 28:21.980]  First of all, I think there's something we need to say up front.
[28:21.980 --> 28:27.780]  When Fauci's emails were obtained through the Freedom of Information Act, Fauci, who
[28:27.860 --> 28:31.740]  of course, people remember him saying, oh, yes, we absolutely need a nationwide mask
[28:31.740 --> 28:37.660]  mandate and then saying if one mask is good, two masks is better.
[28:37.660 --> 28:44.620]  It's important to note that in one of his emails to the associate of some form who asked,
[28:44.620 --> 28:45.620]  she was going abroad.
[28:45.620 --> 28:46.620]  She was traveling.
[28:46.620 --> 28:47.620]  Yeah, on a plane.
[28:47.620 --> 28:53.500]  She asked if she could, if she should wear a mask and Fauci said they don't do any good.
[28:53.500 --> 28:57.380]  The viruses are much smaller than the porousness of the mask.
[28:57.540 --> 28:58.540]  No, don't bother.
[28:58.540 --> 29:02.420]  OK, so I think it's important, first of all, to separate what he's saying in private to
[29:02.420 --> 29:03.620]  what he's saying in public.
[29:03.620 --> 29:06.980]  He said that in public on 60 Minutes in March of 2020.
[29:06.980 --> 29:07.980]  Right, very early on.
[29:07.980 --> 29:08.980]  Yes.
[29:08.980 --> 29:09.980]  Yes.
[29:09.980 --> 29:10.980]  Never to be seen again.
[29:10.980 --> 29:11.980]  That clip never to be seen again.
[29:11.980 --> 29:12.980]  That clip is hard to find.
[29:12.980 --> 29:13.980]  Yes.
[29:13.980 --> 29:17.860]  But his email is out there so that people can go research that.
[29:17.860 --> 29:20.620]  I only read like 3,000 of the 6,000 emails.
[29:20.620 --> 29:23.220]  You're much more diligent than I am.
[29:23.220 --> 29:26.820]  Well, there wasn't a lot to read in some of them because a lot of them was blacked out.
[29:26.820 --> 29:27.820]  Massacist.
[29:27.820 --> 29:28.820]  Yeah.
[29:28.820 --> 29:29.820]  Horrible.
[29:29.820 --> 29:30.820]  A lot of it was removed.
[29:30.820 --> 29:39.580]  So the other thing that I want to remind people of is that a mask might, under certain circumstances,
[29:39.580 --> 29:40.580]  have some benefit.
[29:40.580 --> 29:44.060]  Let me explain what that is.
[29:44.060 --> 29:50.140]  I want to be very clear that maskless people, say walking down a grocery store aisle, passing
[29:50.140 --> 29:55.580]  one another, good afternoon sir, good afternoon ma'am, walking down the aisle, there is absolutely
[29:55.580 --> 29:57.380]  no transfer of a virus.
[29:57.380 --> 29:59.940]  I want to be very clear about that.
[29:59.940 --> 30:03.060]  So if people were not wearing masks and they were just passing by each other in the aisle
[30:03.060 --> 30:08.980]  way and not lingering, not getting 12 inches from each other's face and so forth, the virus
[30:08.980 --> 30:12.660]  does not have powerful legs and it is not leaping off of you onto somebody else or off
[30:12.660 --> 30:13.660]  them onto you.
[30:13.660 --> 30:15.980]  Okay, to be clear about that.
[30:15.980 --> 30:18.460]  Because I think that's the narrative that people got at some point.
[30:18.460 --> 30:21.420]  They were like, okay, oh my God, you're in public and I'm in public, fucks, one of us
[30:21.420 --> 30:23.340]  is going to get infected.
[30:23.340 --> 30:30.380]  So I think that's because of the way that was described by the general medical community,
[30:30.380 --> 30:31.380]  CDC included.
[30:31.380 --> 30:34.660]  Oh yeah, and the media just driving panic.
[30:34.660 --> 30:42.100]  So what actually does, I know you know, but I'm just speaking to you guys, what actually
[30:42.100 --> 30:44.980]  does transmit the virus?
[30:44.980 --> 30:52.300]  So if you cough on somebody, most notably on their face, okay, if you cough on them
[30:52.540 --> 30:56.500]  and you're infected, you will likely infect them.
[30:56.500 --> 30:57.500]  Possibly.
[30:57.500 --> 30:58.500]  Possibly.
[30:58.500 --> 30:59.980]  Higher likelihood for sure.
[30:59.980 --> 31:00.980]  Yeah, exactly.
[31:00.980 --> 31:04.820]  If you sneeze on them, same story.
[31:04.820 --> 31:12.140]  If you speak in such a way that spittle flies out of your mouth onto their face, same thing.
[31:12.140 --> 31:25.260]  So a mask can prevent the effluvium that comes out of your body, your mouth, your nose,
[31:25.260 --> 31:29.200]  or the spittle when you speak.
[31:29.200 --> 31:35.820]  It can stop that, however, I think if you look back at your lifetime and I look back
[31:35.820 --> 31:41.140]  at my lifetime, the number of cases that I'm aware of, the number of incidents, that's
[31:41.140 --> 31:47.820]  a better way to put it, where somebody has coughed or sneezed on me, is virtually zero.
[31:47.820 --> 31:49.940]  Pretty down close to zero.
[31:49.940 --> 31:53.500]  Perhaps I can recall maybe three or four cases in my life where somebody spoke in such a
[31:53.500 --> 31:59.180]  way I was like, fuck, did you bring a washcloth because you're spitting all over me.
[31:59.180 --> 32:00.980]  It doesn't happen.
[32:01.820 --> 32:10.620]  So this idea that masks work is absurd from the get-go.
[32:10.620 --> 32:15.700]  And then when we talk about things like sneezing and coughing, I'm sure you've seen it, I've
[32:15.700 --> 32:24.180]  seen it, no one, this is really the insane part of all this, nobody wants to sneeze into
[32:24.180 --> 32:26.780]  their mask or cough into their mask.
[32:26.780 --> 32:30.940]  So they're walking around with a mask and then when they go, oh my God, I'm about to
[32:30.940 --> 32:36.740]  sneeze, they pull the mask, or I have a cough, I can't control, right?
[32:36.740 --> 32:37.740]  And then they pull the mask down.
[32:37.740 --> 32:40.660]  I mean, I've seen it time and time and time and time again.
[32:40.660 --> 32:49.820]  Excuse me, so the masks, they don't work, number one, just in general, as Fauci said,
[32:49.820 --> 32:57.780]  the level of their porousness is gigantically larger than the size of a coronavirus.
[32:57.780 --> 33:04.940]  They would work at capturing a fluvium if people actually kept them up when they sneezed
[33:04.940 --> 33:05.940]  and coughed.
[33:05.940 --> 33:11.180]  But I totally get why nobody would want to sneeze or cough into their own mask.
[33:11.180 --> 33:13.780]  So they're a complete waste.
[33:13.780 --> 33:19.500]  Well, going back, if we go back to the beginning of the pandemic, the 2020 era, the beginning
[33:19.500 --> 33:27.180]  of 2020, there was this panic because we operate on a just-in-time logistics model
[33:27.180 --> 33:33.140]  for equipment and supply chain logistics in any facility in the world.
[33:33.140 --> 33:38.740]  It doesn't matter if it's the auto industry or the health care industry, we're in a just-in-time
[33:38.740 --> 33:45.540]  meaning that if I need masks in my facility today, I don't have them necessarily.
[33:45.540 --> 33:47.780]  I have enough to get me through the day.
[33:47.780 --> 33:53.780]  But I will order from company X to ensure that they arrive to my facility tomorrow because
[33:53.780 --> 33:57.220]  I don't want to warehouse the product.
[33:57.220 --> 34:02.380]  So warehousing costs money, it's all floor space, you have to heat it or cool it and
[34:02.380 --> 34:04.000]  you got to have people manage it.
[34:04.000 --> 34:06.680]  So there's a logistics cost there.
[34:06.680 --> 34:13.540]  So this supply-side economics has, in early 2020, created a bottleneck where China had
[34:13.540 --> 34:14.540]  all our masks.
[34:15.180 --> 34:21.660]  If you remember, we sent a shit ton of masks to China because they were in the midst of
[34:21.660 --> 34:24.740]  this and we didn't want it coming here.
[34:24.740 --> 34:27.500]  So we sent them a bunch of masks.
[34:27.500 --> 34:33.580]  Now there was a gentleman who has a mask-making facility in Texas that he shut down a decade
[34:33.580 --> 34:34.580]  ago.
[34:34.580 --> 34:35.580]  He never tore it down.
[34:35.580 --> 34:37.020]  He shut it down.
[34:37.020 --> 34:43.780]  He said, early on in March of 2020, I can reopen this mask manufacturing facility.
[34:43.820 --> 34:51.700]  I need 30 people to do it and I need a guarantee that I will have items purchased from me so
[34:51.700 --> 34:56.500]  that I can ensure that I can buy the materials and make these products.
[34:56.500 --> 35:00.300]  The government told them to F off.
[35:00.300 --> 35:02.340]  The government told them no way.
[35:02.340 --> 35:04.900]  So Fauci said, and I have a couple points to make.
[35:04.900 --> 35:08.380]  Fauci said, we don't need masks on 60 Minutes and then he came out and said, you need masks
[35:08.380 --> 35:09.380]  and then you need two masks.
[35:09.380 --> 35:12.460]  Well, what happened when we didn't need masks?
[35:12.460 --> 35:14.300]  We were worried about the healthcare workers.
[35:14.300 --> 35:15.300]  Everyone needed masks.
[35:15.300 --> 35:19.740]  And Fauci's even said, well, if I made everyone get masks, then the healthcare workers wouldn't
[35:19.740 --> 35:20.740]  have any.
[35:20.740 --> 35:25.420]  So we would have screwed up the world for people treating people with COVID.
[35:25.420 --> 35:29.660]  So I said that and then he changed his mind and turned around and said, now we need them.
[35:29.660 --> 35:32.060]  But what happened when we needed them?
[35:32.060 --> 35:35.180]  All of a sudden you could fucking get them everywhere.
[35:35.180 --> 35:37.500]  You could buy masks at Home Depot.
[35:37.500 --> 35:41.740]  You were never able to buy anything but like a respirator at Home Depot, like for painting
[35:41.740 --> 35:43.580]  or dust or something.
[35:43.580 --> 35:46.420]  You never got a surgical mask at Home Depot ever.
[35:46.420 --> 35:52.820]  No, now they're available at Office Max, Home Depot, Lowe's, I mean, pick a store.
[35:52.820 --> 35:59.900]  So the minute we were able to get the supply side from China and they were able to manufacture
[35:59.900 --> 36:03.220]  enough masks for us, all of a sudden there's a mask mandate.
[36:03.220 --> 36:07.300]  Now let's go back to the reality of the world prior to COVID.
[36:07.300 --> 36:10.180]  If I walked through, and I've said this numerous times on this podcast, if I walk through the
[36:10.620 --> 36:14.820]  hospital with a mask on, I'd have been, had my ass chewed.
[36:14.820 --> 36:21.300]  I would have been brought into the management's office and asked, why was I wearing a mask
[36:21.300 --> 36:22.300]  in the hospital?
[36:22.300 --> 36:23.300]  Outside an operating theater.
[36:23.300 --> 36:28.660]  Outside either the operating room or outside of a specific like negative pressure room.
[36:28.660 --> 36:33.580]  Now if I'm in a negative pressure room, like for tuberculosis, I wouldn't be wearing a
[36:33.580 --> 36:34.580]  surgical mask.
[36:34.580 --> 36:35.580]  Yeah, right.
[36:36.180 --> 36:40.740]  I'm wearing an N95 mask and one that fits me appropriately because I've had a seal,
[36:40.740 --> 36:47.100]  a proper seal test on me annually to make sure that things fit me properly.
[36:47.100 --> 36:48.620]  People are just walking around aimlessly.
[36:48.620 --> 36:52.620]  I see people at the damn grocery store wearing gloves, touching all their shit, touching
[36:52.620 --> 36:56.100]  on their foods, picking their nose, pulling their mask down, eating a grape, put their
[36:56.100 --> 36:59.860]  mask back up, have their gloves on, but they think they're fucking not infected by nothing.
[36:59.860 --> 37:01.300]  Yeah, I'm with you.
[37:01.300 --> 37:05.220]  I've told the lady at the grocery store, I said, you realize your mask doesn't work.
[37:05.220 --> 37:09.940]  I said, if a fart can get through my underwear and my pants and you can still smell it, I
[37:09.940 --> 37:12.860]  don't think that mask is helping you.
[37:12.860 --> 37:13.860]  Just throwing it out there.
[37:13.860 --> 37:15.100]  And that's a fart.
[37:15.100 --> 37:21.100]  That's not even the small teeny particle that is this virus.
[37:21.100 --> 37:26.140]  If you can walk into Macy's and smell perfume from the perfume counter a thousand feet from
[37:26.140 --> 37:31.780]  you that's traveling through the air conditioning system and moving across the way and ending
[37:31.780 --> 37:33.540]  up in men's fashion.
[37:33.540 --> 37:34.540]  Yeah.
[37:34.540 --> 37:35.780]  Sorry.
[37:35.780 --> 37:39.740]  So is that sneeze from the lady that sneezed over there.
[37:39.740 --> 37:41.580]  All of that is aerosolized.
[37:41.580 --> 37:46.180]  Now if we don't, early on in the pandemic, there was a meme where a guy was like wearing
[37:46.180 --> 37:49.660]  pants and he peed and the other guy was like, oh my God, I'm glad he's wearing pants and
[37:49.660 --> 37:51.700]  he peed and he didn't pee on me.
[37:51.700 --> 37:56.500]  But if he was in a pool and he peed, nobody'd be like, oh, I'm glad he's wearing a swimsuit
[37:56.500 --> 37:57.500]  and peed.
[37:57.500 --> 37:58.500]  Yeah.
[37:58.500 --> 37:59.500]  You get out of the fucking pool.
[37:59.500 --> 38:00.500]  Right.
[38:01.100 --> 38:08.420]  On my YouTube channel, by the way, if anybody wants to go look at it again, it's DrReality,
[38:08.420 --> 38:09.420]  DrRealityDaveChampion.
[38:09.420 --> 38:20.340]  I've got a video up there that's entitled Pro-Mask Equal Sign Science Denier.
[38:20.340 --> 38:25.540]  And what I do is I take people through the states that have had mask mandates, the strictest
[38:25.540 --> 38:28.140]  mask mandates, for instance, California.
[38:28.140 --> 38:32.420]  From the day the California instituted its mask mandate, I forget the period of time
[38:32.420 --> 38:37.940]  now, it's been months since I made that video, California experienced an 1100% increase in
[38:37.940 --> 38:41.020]  new daily infections with the mask mandate in place.
[38:41.020 --> 38:45.140]  And according to my friends who still live there, because I lived there for 47 years.
[38:45.140 --> 38:48.260]  My friends who still live there, they tell me compliance was as close to 100% as you're
[38:48.260 --> 38:49.260]  ever going to get.
[38:49.260 --> 38:54.780]  1100, I think it was actually 1130% increase in new daily infections.
[38:54.860 --> 39:00.260]  Michigan, with the mask mandate in place, and again, strictly enforced, and my friends
[39:00.260 --> 39:06.020]  who live in Michigan telling me 100% compliance, they had a 1480% increase in new daily infections
[39:06.020 --> 39:08.820]  over six weeks with the mask mandate.
[39:08.820 --> 39:14.180]  And then I talk about other states that either did not have a mask mandate or at some point
[39:14.180 --> 39:15.500]  removed their mask mandate.
[39:15.500 --> 39:16.500]  Florida.
[39:16.500 --> 39:21.780]  Yeah, well, Florida is an example, Texas is an example, and how their new daily infections
[39:21.780 --> 39:22.780]  literally plummeted.
[39:22.780 --> 39:28.660]  Now, I'm not connecting the lack of masks to the infections plummeting because they're
[39:28.660 --> 39:30.340]  completely unrelated.
[39:30.340 --> 39:39.620]  But when you have a supposed mitigation measure, and the number shouldn't increase ever, or
[39:39.620 --> 39:45.500]  you might make an argument that a mitigation measure was minimally effective if you saw
[39:45.500 --> 39:52.020]  only a modest increase, but the kind of increases we're talking about are anything but modest.
[39:52.020 --> 39:59.860]  So clearly, it just explodes the entire nonsense myth about mask wearing.
[39:59.860 --> 40:04.820]  RSV is high for kids too, and they're all stuck in masks.
[40:04.820 --> 40:10.940]  And if not wearing masks, the flip side of the coin, if not wearing masks was dangerous
[40:10.940 --> 40:14.060]  to society, then places that didn't have mask mandates-
[40:14.060 --> 40:15.300]  You wouldn't see a decrease, you'd see an increase.
[40:15.300 --> 40:20.500]  You wouldn't see cases literally plummeting over a couple of months, literally dropping
[40:20.900 --> 40:25.300]  in one case 96% in like three and a half months with no masks.
[40:25.300 --> 40:28.020]  That would not exist if masks were efficacious.
[40:28.020 --> 40:31.140]  Well, if masks worked, we wouldn't need the vaccines.
[40:31.140 --> 40:32.140]  Right?
[40:32.140 --> 40:33.140]  Right?
[40:33.140 --> 40:37.980]  I mean, come on, if masks were so effective in stopping this virus, we wouldn't need.
[40:37.980 --> 40:42.140]  And the problem is, is that no one talks about what mask.
[40:42.140 --> 40:43.560]  It's just mask.
[40:43.560 --> 40:46.100]  It's just a general term.
[40:46.100 --> 40:48.300]  So it could be pieced.
[40:48.300 --> 40:53.900]  Even the damn surgeon general was showing you how to fold a fucking t-shirt and turn
[40:53.900 --> 40:54.900]  it into a mask.
[40:54.900 --> 40:59.820]  He has a video on YouTube, how to properly fold a t-shirt and make a mask out of it.
[40:59.820 --> 41:03.620]  And this was early on when we didn't have access to any surgical masks or anything.
[41:03.620 --> 41:08.100]  Supposedly, we didn't have access to them because of the supply chain issue.
[41:08.100 --> 41:14.860]  So now, no one's talking about the difference between an N95 mask and to properly fit N95
[41:14.860 --> 41:15.860]  masks.
[41:16.140 --> 41:22.540]  A surgical mask, I'm going to say right now, if anyone's ever done drywall in their life,
[41:22.540 --> 41:23.540]  you'll understand this.
[41:23.540 --> 41:27.960]  I want you to go put on a surgical mask and I want you to go sand an eight foot by four
[41:27.960 --> 41:31.860]  foot sheet of drywall after you've put mud and tape all over it.
[41:31.860 --> 41:36.740]  Skim coat the drywall with mud and then sand it with like 150-gauge sandpaper.
[41:36.740 --> 41:40.620]  And then take your mask off and go look in the mirror and see where the drywall dust
[41:40.620 --> 41:43.140]  is because it's fucking all over your face.
[41:43.900 --> 41:44.900]  It's under your mask.
[41:44.900 --> 41:46.780]  In the area that the mask was there to cover.
[41:46.780 --> 41:49.940]  Yes, it's around your nostrils, it's around your mouth.
[41:49.940 --> 41:54.260]  And those particles are exponentially larger than a coronavirus.
[41:54.260 --> 42:00.220]  So to think that a surgical mask, that you people, and I say you people, I'm saying the
[42:00.220 --> 42:06.500]  90% of America right now is not washing their cloth mask daily.
[42:06.500 --> 42:10.280]  They hang it from their rear view mirror, they walk in and out of Costco, hang it back
[42:10.280 --> 42:12.320]  in their mirror.
[42:12.360 --> 42:18.520]  That paper mask that you have, well, because it costs you $13 now for 10 fucking masks,
[42:18.520 --> 42:19.520]  it's a buck 30 a mask.
[42:19.520 --> 42:26.120]  When it used to be a nickel a mask prior to COVID, it was a nickel for a whole mask and
[42:26.120 --> 42:31.560]  you bought a thousand of them in an office setting because you used them all the time.
[42:31.560 --> 42:35.600]  Now you go to Home Depot, it's 13 bucks and you get 10 or 12 masks in a little plastic
[42:35.600 --> 42:36.600]  package.
[42:36.600 --> 42:37.920]  Someone's making money.
[42:37.920 --> 42:39.520]  I should have created a mask.
[42:39.520 --> 42:40.520]  I should have been making masks.
[42:40.520 --> 42:41.520]  We blew it.
[42:41.720 --> 42:42.720]  We blew it.
[42:42.720 --> 42:43.720]  That or sneeze guard guy.
[42:43.720 --> 42:47.120]  I should have made plastic sneeze guards.
[42:47.120 --> 42:49.600]  So to me, the mask thing is a waste.
[42:49.600 --> 42:51.840]  I've said that from the beginning.
[42:51.840 --> 42:58.080]  I've always felt that the coronavirus, from the start of this, I never felt it was based
[42:58.080 --> 42:59.800]  on any fluid.
[42:59.800 --> 43:02.200]  It's been airborne from the fucking beginning.
[43:02.200 --> 43:03.200]  Absolutely.
[43:03.200 --> 43:10.000]  Airborne and the contact, surface contact, because it lives for a long time on a lot
[43:10.000 --> 43:11.000]  of surfaces.
[43:11.480 --> 43:19.600]  Early on for some, yes, and outside the home, I think surface contact transmission is much
[43:19.600 --> 43:22.000]  more likely because people are touching things.
[43:22.000 --> 43:27.080]  For instance, let's say this is one of the things I love, if I can digress for a moment.
[43:27.080 --> 43:33.000]  At my chiropractor, somebody, this is the first go around here in Nevada when they had
[43:33.000 --> 43:35.240]  all the mandates in place.
[43:35.480 --> 43:45.040]  Somebody called OSHA, made a complaint, because the chiropractor didn't have clean and dirty
[43:45.040 --> 43:46.520]  designated pens.
[43:46.520 --> 43:47.520]  What?
[43:47.520 --> 43:48.520]  Yeah.
[43:48.520 --> 43:49.520]  Yeah.
[43:49.520 --> 43:54.720]  So you had to have one pen that said clean, and then when you were done signing your name,
[43:54.720 --> 43:58.480]  you would put it in the dirty one and then they would sanitize it in theory.
[43:58.480 --> 44:05.440]  So however, you can go to the bank and you can touch the ATM numbers.
[44:05.440 --> 44:07.040]  Never gets wiped down.
[44:07.040 --> 44:08.040]  Never.
[44:08.040 --> 44:09.040]  Never.
[44:09.040 --> 44:10.040]  Never.
[44:10.040 --> 44:12.040]  You can go to the gas station and push buttons on there.
[44:12.040 --> 44:13.040]  Never.
[44:13.040 --> 44:14.040]  Never.
[44:14.040 --> 44:15.240]  The pump handle never gets wiped down.
[44:15.240 --> 44:23.440]  So this is why I say surface contact transmission, because people are touching, say, ATMs.
[44:23.440 --> 44:25.520]  How many times have you stood in line at an ATM?
[44:25.520 --> 44:26.520]  A lot.
[44:26.520 --> 44:27.520]  Okay.
[44:27.560 --> 44:30.920]  He's standing right ahead of you, and he's waiting, and he's messing around with his
[44:30.920 --> 44:34.800]  nose, wiping his nose, it's itching or whatever, and he's trying to get that piece of food
[44:34.800 --> 44:38.600]  out from between his teeth, so he's got his finger in his mouth, and then he steps up
[44:38.600 --> 44:45.840]  to the ATM machine, feeling great because he's wearing a mask, and he taps in, well,
[44:45.840 --> 44:50.720]  I want to do a withdrawal and I want to do it from my checking, and I want this amount
[44:50.720 --> 44:54.800]  of money, and he's tapping all the numbers, and then he takes his cash and walks away,
[44:54.880 --> 45:00.560]  and you walk up and, of course, those prompts appear in the exact same location on the screen.
[45:00.560 --> 45:01.560]  Yes.
[45:01.560 --> 45:02.560]  So you're touching…
[45:02.560 --> 45:03.560]  The same spot he just touched.
[45:03.560 --> 45:04.560]  Everything he just touched.
[45:04.560 --> 45:05.560]  Seconds ago.
[45:05.560 --> 45:06.560]  Yes.
[45:06.560 --> 45:09.120]  And probably you're touching the same spot that a hundred people touched in the last
[45:09.120 --> 45:10.120]  hour.
[45:10.120 --> 45:11.120]  Correct.
[45:11.120 --> 45:12.120]  Okay.
[45:12.120 --> 45:21.600]  And yet that, somehow, that reality, somehow was, it ceased being significant, at least
[45:21.600 --> 45:25.560]  in the media, by what, maybe May?
[45:25.560 --> 45:28.560]  A couple months in, they were not talking about it.
[45:28.560 --> 45:29.560]  May 2020.
[45:29.560 --> 45:30.560]  Yes.
[45:30.560 --> 45:32.640]  Suddenly, contact transmission went away, which I thought was absurd.
[45:32.640 --> 45:36.280]  It was, or it is, but think back to the mask thing.
[45:36.280 --> 45:42.280]  I think the masks just represent a visual for people to say, oh, he's being, or she's
[45:42.280 --> 45:43.280]  being safe.
[45:43.280 --> 45:44.280]  Okay, so…
[45:44.280 --> 45:47.440]  It's a visual representation of a bullshit narrative.
[45:47.440 --> 45:50.440]  I'll tell you what I think the masks are about.
[45:50.440 --> 45:51.440]  Compliance.
[45:52.280 --> 45:53.280]  That too.
[45:53.280 --> 45:54.280]  Society's compliance.
[45:54.280 --> 45:55.440]  That too.
[45:55.440 --> 46:03.200]  But I find it hard to believe, because most of these governors, they have like a board
[46:03.200 --> 46:06.280]  or a committee of supposed medical experts.
[46:06.280 --> 46:07.280]  Yes.
[46:07.280 --> 46:08.280]  Okay.
[46:08.280 --> 46:13.320]  So I find it hard to believe that any of these governors are being told masks work, in reality.
[46:13.320 --> 46:14.320]  Okay.
[46:14.320 --> 46:17.560]  I know they make public statements and they press releases, but when they're sitting
[46:17.560 --> 46:21.320]  in a conference room, there's four or five of them sitting with the governor, and they're
[46:21.320 --> 46:26.560]  saying, I find it hard for them, hard to believe that these experts are actually saying
[46:26.560 --> 46:31.960]  to the governor, yeah, man, this thing that some people say escaped from a Level 4 bio
[46:31.960 --> 46:35.880]  lab, yeah, that little piece of cotton you stick on your face, that's going to save
[46:35.880 --> 46:36.880]  you.
[46:36.880 --> 46:41.400]  I find it hard to believe you call them experts, but go ahead, I'm listening.
[46:41.400 --> 46:43.880]  So here's what I think.
[46:43.880 --> 46:45.360]  You know how the human brain works.
[46:45.360 --> 46:47.880]  Somewhat.
[46:47.880 --> 46:51.040]  There is a, what I call the lizard part of the brain.
[46:51.760 --> 46:52.760]  Okay.
[46:52.760 --> 46:57.320]  That identifies people without there being any conscious role in that, and it keys off
[46:57.320 --> 47:00.800]  of facial features, most notably things like the nose and mouth.
[47:00.800 --> 47:03.200]  Of course, the eyes are a big part of that as well.
[47:03.200 --> 47:13.020]  So I believe that the mask mandates are really about, well, I will say the word force because
[47:13.020 --> 47:21.340]  it's mandate, forcing every single person to present the government's point of view
[47:21.340 --> 47:22.340]  on their face.
[47:22.340 --> 47:23.340]  Okay?
[47:23.340 --> 47:24.340]  Okay.
[47:24.340 --> 47:31.300]  So when you go into the store and everybody's wearing a mask, what the perception is is
[47:31.300 --> 47:33.340]  we must be in crisis.
[47:33.340 --> 47:35.700]  Oh yeah, it's definitely a...
[47:35.700 --> 47:37.060]  It's a political message.
[47:37.060 --> 47:41.260]  It's a flag being flown saying that there's a problem.
[47:41.500 --> 47:48.700]  Yes, it's a political message that people are being forced by law to exhibit on their
[47:48.700 --> 47:49.700]  face.
[47:49.700 --> 47:50.700]  It has no science behind it.
[47:50.700 --> 47:53.660]  Well, and the person who's not wearing one is the rebel.
[47:53.660 --> 47:54.660]  Oh yeah.
[47:54.660 --> 47:55.660]  That's the...
[47:55.660 --> 47:56.660]  I've never worn one.
[47:56.660 --> 47:57.660]  Ever.
[47:57.660 --> 47:58.660]  Not once.
[47:58.660 --> 47:59.660]  That's good.
[47:59.660 --> 48:00.660]  I can't say that.
[48:00.660 --> 48:03.660]  I mean, I've worn them when I'm in the hospital or in the office or whatever, and I wear
[48:03.660 --> 48:06.980]  them when I go into the grocery store that requires them.
[48:07.700 --> 48:13.700]  I'm very fortunate that the work I do, I work out of my home and yeah, if I actually had
[48:13.700 --> 48:17.180]  to work for a company during all of this, I'd probably have been one of those active
[48:17.180 --> 48:18.180]  shooter.
[48:18.180 --> 48:19.180]  Yeah.
[48:19.180 --> 48:21.380]  Would have lost it.
[48:21.380 --> 48:22.380]  Yeah.
[48:22.380 --> 48:23.380]  Yeah.
[48:23.380 --> 48:28.420]  It's just, I mean, I was at a post office the other day and a woman was griping about
[48:28.420 --> 48:33.820]  wearing a mask while she was wearing a mask, and I said to her, I said, you know, I'm not
[48:33.820 --> 48:34.820]  wearing one.
[48:34.820 --> 48:35.820]  She goes, I see that.
[48:36.660 --> 48:37.660]  And I said, so let me share with you my point of view.
[48:37.660 --> 48:38.660]  She said, okay.
[48:38.660 --> 48:40.820]  She's probably like 70, right?
[48:40.820 --> 48:46.940]  And I said, the government has a lot of power and a lot of authorities in different areas.
[48:46.940 --> 48:51.820]  One of the authorities the government does not possess is to compel me to act like a
[48:51.820 --> 48:54.820]  complete fucking idiot because they're fucking idiots.
[48:54.820 --> 48:56.820]  That's awesome.
[48:56.820 --> 48:57.820]  Yeah.
[48:57.820 --> 49:02.220]  And then that's, I mean, the closest I've ever come to wearing a mask, and this is really
[49:03.220 --> 49:15.500]  For those of you, for your audience, I live in Nevada, and the governor here is a co-idiot,
[49:15.500 --> 49:20.900]  and so we're in mask mandate two right now, and I've ignored mask mandate two just as
[49:20.900 --> 49:31.500]  I ignored mask mandate one, but it's interesting because the only place that has, how can I
[49:31.500 --> 49:32.500]  phrase this?
[49:32.500 --> 49:38.740]  It's been just absolutely idiotic in their attempt to enforce the mask mandate, has been
[49:38.740 --> 49:42.460]  of all places, the irony, the gym.
[49:42.460 --> 49:43.460]  Really?
[49:43.460 --> 49:44.460]  Yes.
[49:44.460 --> 49:48.900]  Now, I have to be very circumspect in how I cope with that there because there is one
[49:48.900 --> 49:53.740]  gym in the small town in which I live, and I've been going to the gym for 37 years and
[49:53.740 --> 49:55.940]  I don't want to be shut out of the gym.
[49:56.380 --> 50:05.860]  However, so I did buy a mask, and the way I wear it is I call it my cloth earring.
[50:05.860 --> 50:07.140]  Oh, there you go.
[50:07.140 --> 50:08.140]  Okay.
[50:08.140 --> 50:11.780]  I drape it over one ear, and that's how it stays.
[50:11.780 --> 50:14.300]  Mine's like a chin warmer most of the time.
[50:14.300 --> 50:15.300]  Yeah.
[50:15.300 --> 50:19.940]  And then if the manager comes over and, you know, she normally doesn't say anything.
[50:19.940 --> 50:22.860]  She'll normally walk by and she'll give me this hand signal, like pointed her face, you
[50:22.860 --> 50:25.580]  know, because she's got her mask on, like, your mask isn't on.
[50:26.220 --> 50:30.700]  So if she does that, I will literally take the other loop that's hanging down, bring
[50:30.700 --> 50:37.140]  it under my chin, my mouth and nose are exposed, hook it on the other ear.
[50:37.140 --> 50:40.180]  She gets about 30 feet away, I unhook it.
[50:40.180 --> 50:48.420]  I mean, and how absolutely ridiculous is that sort of gamismanship?
[50:48.420 --> 50:49.980]  It's so silly.
[50:50.380 --> 50:55.980]  And I know, I can't, I don't think it's appropriate for me to disclose how I know this.
[50:55.980 --> 51:00.740]  She's no more enamored of the manager, no more enamored of masks than I am, correct?
[51:00.740 --> 51:03.820]  But there's this like weird game that's being played.
[51:03.820 --> 51:08.460]  So I have a video out that I put up on, I don't know if it was Facebook or Twitter,
[51:08.460 --> 51:13.140]  I put it up early on during the pandemic, and I was at Domino's Pizza buying pizza
[51:13.140 --> 51:19.260]  for the kids, all right, by the house, and the lady behind the counter, now I've got
[51:19.260 --> 51:23.220]  my t-shirt pulled over my nose so I can walk in and grab this pizza, okay?
[51:23.220 --> 51:28.140]  I'm not wearing a mask, I literally just pulled the collar of my shirt up over my nose and
[51:28.140 --> 51:29.580]  mouth and walked in.
[51:29.580 --> 51:32.020]  She goes, you need to be wearing a mask.
[51:32.020 --> 51:33.820]  So she tells me I need to be wearing a mask.
[51:33.820 --> 51:38.660]  So I pull out my phone and I video this woman who's telling me I need to be wearing a mask,
[51:38.660 --> 51:42.440]  and she has a mask on exactly as you would wear it.
[51:42.440 --> 51:46.480]  It's down around her chin, it's not covering her mouth or nose.
[51:46.500 --> 51:51.360]  She must be 17, 18, 19 years old, she's not very old, and that's fine, she's incompetent
[51:51.360 --> 51:55.000]  and she doesn't know, she's just following what she's being told to say.
[51:55.000 --> 52:00.040]  But she's not, like you can't tell me to do something you're not doing that's a mandate
[52:00.040 --> 52:03.840]  in your store, like it just doesn't even make sense.
[52:03.840 --> 52:14.000]  You know, that any private sector worker anywhere is trying to enforce masks on their customers
[52:14.000 --> 52:15.760]  is the height of stupidity.
[52:16.040 --> 52:25.040]  Well, I think what this gave society, I think the masks gave society this, I want to say
[52:25.040 --> 52:30.800]  altruistic idea, but maybe that's not the right term, but it gave them this strong ability
[52:30.800 --> 52:33.480]  to think that they were more important than they are.
[52:33.480 --> 52:34.480]  Oh yeah.
[52:34.480 --> 52:43.160]  So it created a whole bunch of Karens that want to facilitate their push of, you know,
[52:43.560 --> 52:45.120]  their governance on you.
[52:45.120 --> 52:46.120]  Oh yeah.
[52:46.120 --> 52:50.800]  They're right, you're wrong, you do it my way, and it allowed for them, the mask is
[52:50.800 --> 52:54.240]  a verbal ability for them to start yelling at people.
[52:54.240 --> 52:56.760]  Was it starting at the nursery?
[52:56.760 --> 53:02.680]  Maybe a year ago, and my mask wasn't on, didn't even dawn on me.
[53:02.680 --> 53:07.320]  I was working outside, I went over to the nursery to get a sprinkler part, so I'm not
[53:07.320 --> 53:08.320]  near anybody.
[53:08.320 --> 53:11.840]  I'm in an aisle, but there's no one around me.
[53:11.840 --> 53:18.760]  And two people walk across the entire building to come tell me, I need to wear a mask.
[53:18.760 --> 53:23.440]  I'm like, wait a minute, like we weren't anywhere near each other, this wasn't even an issue
[53:23.440 --> 53:26.040]  until you got close to me.
[53:26.040 --> 53:28.680]  You created this fucking problem.
[53:28.680 --> 53:33.400]  I was fine without the mask and I wasn't bothering anybody and no one was next to me.
[53:33.400 --> 53:39.320]  And again, I have to couch that in the fact that this was over a year, over a year ago
[53:40.080 --> 53:45.400]  So it would have been, toward the beginning of the mask mandate push, we really didn't
[53:45.400 --> 53:52.840]  understand the virus like we do now, so there's a lot of introspective thoughts that go on
[53:52.840 --> 53:53.840]  there.
[53:53.840 --> 53:56.440]  I have to realize that these people don't know medicine, they don't know how viruses
[53:56.440 --> 54:03.960]  transmit, they don't know science, but they know what they're being told, and the media
[54:03.960 --> 54:06.200]  is lying and they're scaring people.
[54:06.200 --> 54:14.520]  So in that regard, I have to at least, myself, I need to take into account that they're stupid,
[54:14.520 --> 54:17.800]  they don't understand, and they're so stupid that they're going to believe what they're
[54:17.800 --> 54:20.720]  told the first time, like everyone does.
[54:20.720 --> 54:23.520]  They're not going to research it, they're not going to dig, they're not going to learn
[54:23.520 --> 54:27.800]  more, so they're going to jump to the conclusions that they've been dictated to from the start
[54:27.800 --> 54:28.800]  of this.
[54:28.800 --> 54:33.280]  And no matter how much knowledge I prove that I have, or how much science I bring with me
[54:34.280 --> 54:37.160]  I won't win, especially in that setting.
[54:37.160 --> 54:38.920]  You know what I get all the time?
[54:38.920 --> 54:39.920]  You're not an M.D.
[54:39.920 --> 54:40.920]  Yeah, right.
[54:40.920 --> 54:47.360]  Fauci's an M.D. and he's a fucking idiot.
[54:47.360 --> 54:51.760]  Well Fauci's actually brilliant, but he's corrupt, so how does that help?
[54:51.760 --> 54:53.560]  A brilliant idiot, I guess.
[54:53.560 --> 54:55.880]  We talked about regulatory capture.
[54:55.880 --> 55:00.640]  He's been in the pocket of big pharma for at least three decades.
[55:00.640 --> 55:10.600]  He is, to me, the modern Ancel Keys, where Ancel Keys was the paid minion of what we
[55:10.600 --> 55:13.800]  would now refer to as big food, especially the sugar industry.
[55:13.800 --> 55:17.920]  Oh yeah, he was paid big time by the sugar industry.
[55:17.920 --> 55:21.040]  And Fauci is that for big pharma today.
[55:21.040 --> 55:26.200]  But there was one thing I wanted to mention that you had commented on and now it has flown
[55:26.200 --> 55:27.200]  out of my mind.
[55:27.880 --> 55:30.160]  Maybe we should talk about remdesivir.
[55:30.160 --> 55:31.880]  Yeah, let's do that.
[55:31.880 --> 55:37.280]  Okay, so for those of you who don't know what remdesivir is, it is an antiviral drug.
[55:37.280 --> 55:42.400]  I forget who the manufacturer is.
[55:42.400 --> 55:48.200]  So the very first time that remdesivir got on the American public's radar screen was
[55:48.200 --> 55:53.480]  when Donald Trump was hospitalized with COVID-19 and experiencing some level of respiratory
[55:53.480 --> 55:55.160]  distress.
[55:55.680 --> 56:00.280]  Remdesivir was still in trials at the time for COVID-19.
[56:00.280 --> 56:03.960]  It was never designed for COVID-19, let's start with that.
[56:03.960 --> 56:08.240]  But it was under trials to see whether it was in any way efficacious for...
[56:08.240 --> 56:10.640]  Nothing was designed for COVID-19.
[56:10.640 --> 56:16.920]  Whether it was efficacious in the treatment of acute respiratory syndrome from SARS-CoV-2.
[56:16.920 --> 56:23.400]  So that and monoclonal antibodies, neither one had even emergency use authorization at
[56:23.400 --> 56:24.400]  that point.
[56:24.400 --> 56:28.680]  They were both in clinical trials in terms of COVID-19 and so Donald Trump was hospitalized
[56:28.680 --> 56:35.160]  and he started to have acute respiratory distress and he's obese, of course, and there was
[56:35.160 --> 56:38.800]  considerable concern that he was going to go downhill and crash.
[56:38.800 --> 56:46.200]  So they reached out to the FDA and they said, we need you to give us an exception so that
[56:46.200 --> 56:51.320]  we can give President Trump remdesivir and monoclonal antibodies.
[56:51.320 --> 56:55.320]  So that was the first time that remdesivir really got on the public's radar screen was
[56:55.320 --> 56:59.160]  when people started reading the stories and the fact that he'd been given remdesivir.
[56:59.160 --> 57:00.720]  He was given the kitchen sink.
[57:00.720 --> 57:01.720]  Yes.
[57:01.720 --> 57:03.240]  And of course, he recovered.
[57:03.240 --> 57:04.240]  Yes.
[57:04.240 --> 57:08.720]  I think the really critical thing about that though is he received remdesivir and monoclonal
[57:08.720 --> 57:09.720]  antibodies.
[57:09.720 --> 57:10.720]  Yes.
[57:10.720 --> 57:12.720]  And, and, and.
[57:12.720 --> 57:13.720]  Yeah.
[57:13.720 --> 57:14.720]  Whatever.
[57:14.720 --> 57:15.720]  All else, yes.
[57:15.720 --> 57:16.720]  It was a shit-ton of stuff.
[57:16.720 --> 57:17.720]  I remember, right?
[57:18.600 --> 57:23.440]  it required a singular exemption from FDA to do it because there was no approval for
[57:23.440 --> 57:26.160]  it to be used by anybody outside the clinical trials.
[57:26.160 --> 57:29.440]  And no doctor's going to give it to him unless someone else approved it because he's the
[57:29.440 --> 57:30.440]  frickin' president.
[57:30.440 --> 57:32.720]  If it was you or I, they'd be like, I will try it.
[57:32.720 --> 57:33.720]  If you die, you die.
[57:33.720 --> 57:35.560]  It starts to be you.
[57:35.560 --> 57:41.760]  I read an interview with the director of FDA at the time who was asked for that exemption
[57:41.760 --> 57:43.000]  and he was not happy.
[57:43.000 --> 57:44.000]  Oh, I'm sure he wasn't.
[57:44.000 --> 57:45.000]  Yeah.
[57:45.000 --> 57:47.440]  But I'm sure that was a very difficult authorization to provide.
[57:47.840 --> 57:48.840]  I'm Bob Smith.
[57:48.840 --> 57:51.120]  I'm assistant to the president and I want you to do something that ethically you're
[57:51.120 --> 57:52.120]  not allowed to do.
[57:52.120 --> 57:53.120]  What?
[57:53.120 --> 57:54.120]  Okay.
[57:54.120 --> 57:55.120]  No.
[57:55.120 --> 58:02.280]  So anyway, but, you know, remdesivir, it's interesting because the trials in the United
[58:02.280 --> 58:05.640]  States for remdesivir involved a thousand participants.
[58:05.640 --> 58:12.040]  I think it's important to note that trials around the world for ivermectin involve many,
[58:12.040 --> 58:13.040]  many times that.
[58:13.040 --> 58:14.040]  Millions.
[58:14.040 --> 58:15.040]  Millions of people.
[58:15.040 --> 58:24.160]  In this country, in the public health sector, who oppose ivermectin, they constantly dismiss
[58:24.160 --> 58:28.560]  those studies from all over the world saying that because they had 5,000, 7,000, 8,000
[58:28.560 --> 58:31.280]  participants, they were too small to be meaningful.
[58:31.280 --> 58:34.080]  And then they love the ones that have a thousand people in them.
[58:34.080 --> 58:35.080]  Right.
[58:35.080 --> 58:39.440]  And then they say that the remdesivir study with a thousand people was great.
[58:39.440 --> 58:40.440]  Yeah.
[58:40.440 --> 58:41.440]  Yeah.
[58:41.440 --> 58:42.440]  Very reliable.
[58:42.440 --> 58:44.440]  The cohort size is irrelevant.
[58:44.440 --> 58:45.440]  Okay.
[58:45.440 --> 58:47.720]  All of a sudden, it doesn't matter because we want this drug.
[58:47.720 --> 58:48.720]  Yeah.
[58:48.720 --> 58:52.800]  So then remdesivir got emergency use authorization in COVID cases.
[58:52.800 --> 58:59.720]  However, unlike in the case of President Trump, most of the patients who receive remdesivir
[58:59.720 --> 59:01.280]  do not receive monoclonal antibodies.
[59:01.280 --> 59:05.600]  They receive just the remdesivir because it's in ready supply where the monoclonal antibodies
[59:05.600 --> 59:11.800]  are not, which is more of a, to use an overworked phrase these days, a supply chain issue.
[59:11.800 --> 59:12.800]  Yes.
[59:13.600 --> 59:15.560]  The monoclonal antibodies, they're there.
[59:15.560 --> 59:20.280]  The problem is hospitals aren't getting on board and providing them.
[59:20.280 --> 59:22.400]  But remdesivir is simple.
[59:22.400 --> 59:23.400]  Right?
[59:23.400 --> 59:24.400]  Relatively.
[59:24.400 --> 59:25.400]  Relatively.
[59:25.400 --> 59:27.600]  Because it's got to be given in a hospital setting.
[59:27.600 --> 59:28.600]  It does.
[59:28.600 --> 59:29.600]  Yeah.
[59:29.600 --> 59:30.600]  Clinical setting only.
[59:30.600 --> 59:40.040]  So, but here's the thing, remdesivir appears to be a crap shoot in that some patients who
[59:40.280 --> 59:48.000]  are administered remdesivir improve and eventually get checked out and go home and they're fine.
[59:48.000 --> 59:52.680]  Other patients who begin to receive remdesivir within about 24 hours.
[59:52.680 --> 59:53.680]  Declined rapidly.
[59:53.680 --> 59:54.680]  Rapidly.
[59:54.680 --> 59:55.680]  Yes.
[59:55.680 --> 59:56.680]  And die.
[59:56.680 --> 59:57.680]  Yes.
[59:57.680 --> 59:58.680]  Within usually four days.
[59:58.680 --> 59:59.680]  They're gone.
[59:59.680 --> 01:00:00.680]  Okay.
[01:00:00.680 --> 01:00:03.680]  Can you hear the dog at the back?
[01:00:03.680 --> 01:00:06.840]  One of my dogs is like, he's whining, he's like, you guys have been in there talking
[01:00:06.840 --> 01:00:07.840]  all this time.
[01:00:07.840 --> 01:00:08.840]  You're not giving me any attention.
[01:00:09.640 --> 01:00:11.680]  So if you hear any whining, that's why.
[01:00:11.680 --> 01:00:18.120]  So anyway, the situation with remdesivir is that here's how it works.
[01:00:18.120 --> 01:00:21.040]  Remdesivir is administered.
[01:00:21.040 --> 01:00:27.680]  If the patient improves, checks out, goes home, then remdesivir is the hero of the day.
[01:00:27.680 --> 01:00:36.000]  If remdesivir is administrated and the patient worsens and dies within three to four days,
[01:00:36.000 --> 01:00:37.000]  it's the COVID.
[01:00:37.160 --> 01:00:42.960]  They've done studies, you know, 60% of the time, it works every time.
[01:00:42.960 --> 01:00:46.760]  That doesn't make sense.
[01:00:46.760 --> 01:00:48.720]  But that's the thing.
[01:00:48.720 --> 01:00:55.480]  In the cases where remdesivir appears to be deteriorating the patient's condition, no
[01:00:55.480 --> 01:00:56.480]  one ever looks at that.
[01:00:56.480 --> 01:01:00.680]  No one views it as the remdesivir, they view it strictly as COVID.
[01:01:00.680 --> 01:01:05.320]  There is zero discussion going on in this country by any authoritative health agency
[01:01:05.640 --> 01:01:10.960]  doing any research, zero discussion about whether remdesivir is in fact killing patients.
[01:01:10.960 --> 01:01:19.760]  And I think the information that I have, especially if you look at remdesivir's dismal clinical
[01:01:19.760 --> 01:01:24.200]  trial history before SARS-CoV-2, it's a fucking disaster.
[01:01:24.200 --> 01:01:28.960]  So you take a drug that in various trials, disaster, disaster, disaster, disaster.
[01:01:28.960 --> 01:01:30.880]  This is an antiviral drug, by the way.
[01:01:30.880 --> 01:01:35.240]  This is a drug designed to stop viruses from replicating.
[01:01:35.880 --> 01:01:38.080]  That was its initial reason for even being.
[01:01:38.080 --> 01:01:44.680]  It wasn't like Viagra, which was built to regrow hair, and they accidentally found it
[01:01:44.680 --> 01:01:50.200]  gave men erections, and so they decided to change the perspective on the drug.
[01:01:50.200 --> 01:01:55.120]  This is a drug that was specifically designed to stop viral replication.
[01:01:55.120 --> 01:02:01.480]  So it has a dismal clinical trial history.
[01:02:01.480 --> 01:02:09.320]  Then, you know who was involved in its early advancement, wanting to see it advance?
[01:02:09.320 --> 01:02:10.320]  No.
[01:02:10.320 --> 01:02:11.320]  Fauci.
[01:02:11.320 --> 01:02:12.320]  Of course.
[01:02:12.320 --> 01:02:13.600]  Oh, that makes so much more sense.
[01:02:13.600 --> 01:02:14.600]  Follow the money.
[01:02:14.600 --> 01:02:15.600]  Follow the Fauci.
[01:02:15.600 --> 01:02:19.400]  And you know who has spoken well of bringing remdesivir to the American people?
[01:02:19.400 --> 01:02:20.400]  Fauci.
[01:02:20.400 --> 01:02:21.400]  Yeah, Fauci.
[01:02:21.400 --> 01:02:24.080]  I think I'm seeing a trend.
[01:02:24.080 --> 01:02:26.360]  Yeah, there's a definite trend for sure.
[01:02:26.360 --> 01:02:30.520]  I wonder if he has any financial ties to the company.
[01:02:30.520 --> 01:02:42.360]  You know, I don't know if you remember, about seven months ago now, an Israeli, supposedly
[01:02:42.360 --> 01:02:51.400]  some altruistic organization, awarded Fauci a million dollars, I kid you not what I'm
[01:02:51.400 --> 01:02:59.040]  about to say, for speaking truth to power about SARS-CoV-2 and COVID-19.
[01:02:59.040 --> 01:03:02.200]  So when I have the time, which I don't have now, and this is something that should be
[01:03:02.200 --> 01:03:07.160]  easily researched at any point in the future when I do have more time, I want to know who
[01:03:07.160 --> 01:03:12.360]  participates in that organization that gifted him that million dollars.
[01:03:12.360 --> 01:03:13.760]  I want to know who backs it.
[01:03:13.760 --> 01:03:15.200]  I want to know who the contributors are.
[01:03:15.200 --> 01:03:19.160]  I don't know if Israeli law is like U.S. law, that that all has to be disclosed.
[01:03:19.160 --> 01:03:20.160]  Oh, I'm sure it's not.
[01:03:20.160 --> 01:03:23.120]  I'm guessing that's why it came from Israel.
[01:03:23.120 --> 01:03:24.120]  And then...
[01:03:24.120 --> 01:03:27.600]  Maybe he should have got a couple of hunter-biting paintings, I'm just kidding.
[01:03:27.600 --> 01:03:32.320]  And then, you know, these companies, they're very sophisticated.
[01:03:32.320 --> 01:03:38.880]  I was looking at something, you know, the other day that, like, Pfizer's assets are
[01:03:38.880 --> 01:03:41.720]  valued close to 25 billion dollars.
[01:03:41.720 --> 01:03:44.440]  I mean, these are very sophisticated organizations.
[01:03:44.440 --> 01:03:45.440]  Correct.
[01:03:45.440 --> 01:03:46.620]  They've been around a long time.
[01:03:46.620 --> 01:03:47.960]  They're very diversified.
[01:03:47.960 --> 01:03:49.760]  They're multifaceted, multilayered.
[01:03:49.760 --> 01:03:50.760]  It's not...
[01:03:50.760 --> 01:03:55.400]  You're not cutting the head off the snake if you get rid of one arm of it, you know?
[01:03:55.400 --> 01:03:58.760]  They know how to filter money out of their organization and make it available to the
[01:03:58.760 --> 01:04:01.400]  people who support them, even if it's not a direct payment.
[01:04:01.400 --> 01:04:02.400]  Correct.
[01:04:02.400 --> 01:04:03.400]  Yes.
[01:04:03.400 --> 01:04:04.400]  Yeah.
[01:04:04.400 --> 01:04:06.440]  And I'm sure there's also deferred things like, you know, we're going to put this money
[01:04:06.440 --> 01:04:07.920]  in an offshore corporation.
[01:04:07.920 --> 01:04:12.760]  Well, there's a doctor I follow on Twitter and he made a comment the other day.
[01:04:12.760 --> 01:04:13.760]  It was pretty funny.
[01:04:13.760 --> 01:04:17.480]  Dr. Brian Lanzikis, or Lanzikis is how you say his name.
[01:04:17.480 --> 01:04:22.800]  He said, we, as practitioners, are not allowed to receive a pen from, like, it's like, it
[01:04:23.800 --> 01:04:29.040]  used to be that they could come buy you lunch and they would, you know, bring you all this
[01:04:29.040 --> 01:04:34.760]  cool stuff and you had mouse pads and pens and all the jackets from all the different
[01:04:34.760 --> 01:04:35.760]  drug companies.
[01:04:35.760 --> 01:04:41.280]  They would shower offices with gifts that were large prescribers of their drug, right?
[01:04:41.280 --> 01:04:46.520]  And that became illegal because then they were essentially buying your decision was
[01:04:46.520 --> 01:04:48.560]  the thought process.
[01:04:48.560 --> 01:04:55.280]  So the drug companies are no longer allowed to provide to a provider any, any sort of
[01:04:55.280 --> 01:05:01.000]  drug, a prayer for Nelia pens, my mouse pads, nothing, unless they're giving you a teaching.
[01:05:01.000 --> 01:05:03.500]  If they teach you about their drug.
[01:05:03.500 --> 01:05:07.160]  So if there's a class involved, then they can do it, but they can't just do it willy
[01:05:07.160 --> 01:05:13.960]  nilly, but they can do it to all the politicians, all MSNBC, ABC, CBS box.
[01:05:13.960 --> 01:05:17.040]  They can do it to any marketing, whatever, right?
[01:05:17.520 --> 01:05:20.960]  So how many times have I had a patient come to me and not even about COVID, just come
[01:05:20.960 --> 01:05:24.960]  to me and ask me about a drug that they saw on the fucking TV.
[01:05:24.960 --> 01:05:25.960]  Will this help me?
[01:05:25.960 --> 01:05:28.800]  No, because that's for eyelashes.
[01:05:28.800 --> 01:05:29.800]  You know what I'm saying?
[01:05:29.800 --> 01:05:32.560]  It's like, it's not going to be what you need to, what you want it to be.
[01:05:32.560 --> 01:05:37.920]  And in the case of somebody who's dealing with as large numbers as Fauci and Fauci earning
[01:05:37.920 --> 01:05:42.720]  almost a half a million dollars from the United States government, he's the highest paid executive
[01:05:42.720 --> 01:05:45.520]  branch employee in the United States government, higher than the president, higher than the
[01:05:45.520 --> 01:05:46.520]  president.
[01:05:46.520 --> 01:05:51.880]  You know, I think the way they can compensate him would be things like we're going to set
[01:05:51.880 --> 01:05:53.800]  up an investment fund for your kids.
[01:05:53.800 --> 01:05:54.800]  Right.
[01:05:54.800 --> 01:05:55.800]  Okay.
[01:05:55.800 --> 01:05:57.800]  Once you retire from the government.
[01:05:57.800 --> 01:05:59.600]  We landscaped your yard for you.
[01:05:59.600 --> 01:06:00.600]  Yeah.
[01:06:00.600 --> 01:06:06.440]  Once you retire, this, you know, corporation in Bermuda will hire you as a consultant for
[01:06:06.440 --> 01:06:07.440]  a million dollars a year.
[01:06:07.440 --> 01:06:08.440]  We'll be on the board.
[01:06:08.440 --> 01:06:09.440]  Yeah.
[01:06:09.440 --> 01:06:14.080]  I mean, there are so many different ways for this corruption to take place.
[01:06:14.080 --> 01:06:15.080]  Yes.
[01:06:15.200 --> 01:06:23.080]  The idea that these companies, these billion dollar companies aren't using these mechanisms
[01:06:23.080 --> 01:06:29.360]  to enrich their government minions, anybody who thinks that's not happening, it's just
[01:06:29.360 --> 01:06:33.320]  they don't have much of a brain or at least they don't understand how business operates.
[01:06:33.320 --> 01:06:34.480]  Well, no, they don't.
[01:06:34.480 --> 01:06:38.320]  But back to the initial part of this, because there's the remdesivir section.
[01:06:38.320 --> 01:06:42.800]  So back to that, the reason I think that they were so pushing for the remdesivir is because
[01:06:42.800 --> 01:06:47.320]  one, it's expensive.
[01:06:47.320 --> 01:06:51.040]  And every time you use that drug, the company, Gilead, who uses it is going to make a lot
[01:06:51.040 --> 01:06:52.560]  of money off of it.
[01:06:52.560 --> 01:06:53.560]  Yep.
[01:06:53.560 --> 01:06:56.080]  So you've got Fauci now touting it.
[01:06:56.080 --> 01:06:58.200]  The average consumer doesn't know the difference.
[01:06:58.200 --> 01:07:00.960]  The average person is like, just give me whatever makes me better.
[01:07:00.960 --> 01:07:05.160]  I don't care if it's, if it's frog turds, give me, I'll eat it.
[01:07:05.160 --> 01:07:06.160]  I don't care.
[01:07:06.160 --> 01:07:07.160]  Just I want to get better.
[01:07:07.160 --> 01:07:08.160]  Yeah.
[01:07:08.160 --> 01:07:09.160]  Right.
[01:07:10.160 --> 01:07:13.600]  I read a study from, where did it come from?
[01:07:13.600 --> 01:07:24.280]  It was off of Medscape that said remdesivir only is like, it's like a 30% benefit possibly.
[01:07:24.280 --> 01:07:26.680]  But the cohort study was like 27 people.
[01:07:26.680 --> 01:07:27.680]  Yeah.
[01:07:27.680 --> 01:07:29.200]  So like that doesn't mean squat.
[01:07:29.200 --> 01:07:35.320]  Well, when it comes to remdesivir, 27 people is more than enough.
[01:07:35.320 --> 01:07:36.320]  So says Big Pharma.
[01:07:36.320 --> 01:07:37.600]  So says Big Pharma.
[01:07:37.600 --> 01:07:45.200]  So I think that, you know, granted the study was obviously way underpowered, but also 30%,
[01:07:45.200 --> 01:07:47.360]  they're not talking about the negative side effect.
[01:07:47.360 --> 01:07:49.880]  There was no negatives in the entire thing.
[01:07:49.880 --> 01:07:56.240]  Yet you and I both know people have died after receiving, within days of receiving remdesivir.
[01:07:56.240 --> 01:08:01.720]  Now they didn't receive, like you said, they didn't receive monoclonal antibodies and remdesivir.
[01:08:01.720 --> 01:08:04.000]  They only received remdesivir.
[01:08:04.000 --> 01:08:07.880]  And it should be clear that remdesivir does not produce that outcome in everyone.
[01:08:07.880 --> 01:08:08.880]  Correct.
[01:08:08.880 --> 01:08:09.880]  It does not.
[01:08:09.880 --> 01:08:11.920]  That's why at the outset I called it a crapshoot.
[01:08:11.920 --> 01:08:12.920]  It's a gamble.
[01:08:12.920 --> 01:08:19.320]  It is a gamble, but I think it's unfair for a society or for medical society to use only
[01:08:19.320 --> 01:08:23.600]  that drug as their crapshoot drug when there's other drugs that seem to have a better, more
[01:08:23.600 --> 01:08:27.240]  safe profile that are good crapshoot drugs.
[01:08:27.240 --> 01:08:33.200]  Like whether it was the hydroxychloroquine BS or the ivermectin conversation, there's
[01:08:33.400 --> 01:08:35.920]  conversations to be had on both fronts, you know?
[01:08:35.920 --> 01:08:36.920]  Yeah.
[01:08:36.920 --> 01:08:39.000]  I just did a presentation today, it hasn't gone up yet.
[01:08:39.000 --> 01:08:44.880]  I recorded it before you and I got together today, in which I looked at Joe Rogan and
[01:08:44.880 --> 01:08:51.240]  his what I'm calling home protocols, Aaron Rodgers, his home protocols.
[01:08:51.240 --> 01:08:52.240]  Tim Boo.
[01:08:52.240 --> 01:08:53.240]  Yeah.
[01:08:53.240 --> 01:08:58.260]  I've talked about, you know, my living in ketosis and exercising six or seven days a
[01:08:58.260 --> 01:09:02.320]  week and the fact that I take one and only one supplement, which is vitamin D, and the
[01:09:02.440 --> 01:09:07.000]  fact that I eventually had a curiosity, went and had a SARS-CoV-2 specific memory T cell
[01:09:07.000 --> 01:09:08.440]  test and came up positive.
[01:09:08.440 --> 01:09:12.080]  So at some point in the last 22 months, I was infected with the virus, but I haven't
[01:09:12.080 --> 01:09:13.080]  been sick.
[01:09:13.080 --> 01:09:17.480]  I haven't felt bad in any way ever since this thing started.
[01:09:17.480 --> 01:09:20.160]  So I discussed these protocols.
[01:09:20.160 --> 01:09:26.400]  So we know that Rogan and Rodgers, they both involved ivermectin, zinc and D. There's some
[01:09:26.400 --> 01:09:27.400]  other stuff.
[01:09:27.400 --> 01:09:28.400]  And monoclonal.
[01:09:28.400 --> 01:09:29.400]  Monoclonal antibodies, yeah.
[01:09:29.480 --> 01:09:32.440]  And I know Rogan was on, you know, a three-day vitamin drip.
[01:09:32.440 --> 01:09:33.440]  Okay.
[01:09:33.440 --> 01:09:34.440]  Right.
[01:09:34.440 --> 01:09:36.040]  And Hydra and a whole bunch of other stuff.
[01:09:36.040 --> 01:09:43.080]  So and of course, in both of them said, I mean, Rogan said three days into it, he said,
[01:09:43.080 --> 01:09:44.080]  I feel great.
[01:09:44.080 --> 01:09:45.080]  Yeah.
[01:09:45.080 --> 01:09:46.080]  He felt way better.
[01:09:46.080 --> 01:09:49.160]  Roger said, you know, he took this stuff for a couple of days.
[01:09:49.160 --> 01:09:52.580]  He said, I feel incredible.
[01:09:52.580 --> 01:09:56.160]  I would love to say that I felt that way, but I never was sick.
[01:09:56.160 --> 01:09:57.160]  So you never felt bad.
[01:09:57.160 --> 01:09:58.160]  Yeah.
[01:09:58.920 --> 01:10:04.960]  So apparently, my sort of, I'll call it my life protocol served me well.
[01:10:04.960 --> 01:10:11.720]  And the point of the presentation that I am about to put up is that there is no database
[01:10:11.720 --> 01:10:14.200]  for what works.
[01:10:14.200 --> 01:10:20.400]  So the only message about what works is coming out of big pharma and government.
[01:10:20.400 --> 01:10:21.400]  Right.
[01:10:21.640 --> 01:10:29.560]  If, oh, this is a podcast, I can speak more freely.
[01:10:29.560 --> 01:10:37.800]  When you look outside the United States, most other parts of the world consider ivermectin
[01:10:37.800 --> 01:10:41.960]  a powerful tool against COVID-19.
[01:10:41.960 --> 01:10:42.960]  If used early.
[01:10:42.960 --> 01:10:43.960]  Yes, absolutely.
[01:10:43.960 --> 01:10:44.960]  Yeah.
[01:10:44.960 --> 01:10:45.960]  Let's couch that.
[01:10:45.960 --> 01:10:49.160]  And like, if used at the onset of symptoms within the first three days.
[01:10:49.160 --> 01:10:50.200]  Or testing positive.
[01:10:50.200 --> 01:10:54.120]  Or testing positive, not hospital bound patients.
[01:10:54.120 --> 01:10:55.120]  Yes, absolutely.
[01:10:55.120 --> 01:10:56.120]  Yeah.
[01:10:56.120 --> 01:11:01.600]  They're not intubated or high flow nasal cannula patients stuck in the ICU.
[01:11:01.600 --> 01:11:04.520]  By the time you're fucked, ivermectin is not going to help you.
[01:11:04.520 --> 01:11:05.520]  Yeah.
[01:11:05.520 --> 01:11:07.040]  You have a very good point.
[01:11:07.040 --> 01:11:09.020]  Thank you for bringing that up.
[01:11:09.020 --> 01:11:15.160]  But people who have taken ivermectin around the globe upon either testing positive or
[01:11:15.160 --> 01:11:18.680]  first symptoms have done extraordinarily well.
[01:11:19.160 --> 01:11:26.520]  Many parts of India credit the fact that their numbers are almost, given their population,
[01:11:26.520 --> 01:11:30.680]  they're four times the population of the United States, their numbers are almost down to zero.
[01:11:30.680 --> 01:11:31.680]  Right.
[01:11:31.680 --> 01:11:32.680]  Yeah.
[01:11:32.680 --> 01:11:36.680]  As a percentage, they're doing spectacularly better than the United States.
[01:11:36.680 --> 01:11:39.680]  They are kind of horrible at data, though.
[01:11:39.680 --> 01:11:41.680]  There's some question marks there.
[01:11:41.680 --> 01:11:46.080]  Mount infected versus, I'm trying to be devil's advocate here.
[01:11:46.080 --> 01:11:49.080]  And they've got a lot of rural area that's very poor rural areas.
[01:11:49.080 --> 01:11:50.080]  Yeah.
[01:11:50.080 --> 01:11:52.080]  So then you're not garnering all the data in the way you might like.
[01:11:52.080 --> 01:11:53.080]  Absolutely true.
[01:11:53.080 --> 01:11:56.080]  But in the big cities, they're doing a fairly decent job.
[01:11:56.080 --> 01:11:59.680]  I don't trust anything coming out of China, by the way, because they stopped counting
[01:11:59.680 --> 01:12:00.680]  deaths.
[01:12:00.680 --> 01:12:01.680]  Yes.
[01:12:01.680 --> 01:12:02.680]  Yeah, you can't.
[01:12:02.680 --> 01:12:05.080]  I think there was millions dead in the beginning of this, and they stopped at 86,000.
[01:12:05.080 --> 01:12:06.080]  Yeah.
[01:12:06.080 --> 01:12:07.080]  So whatever.
[01:12:07.080 --> 01:12:08.080]  But anyway.
[01:12:08.080 --> 01:12:09.080]  I'm letting you know that's where I'm at.
[01:12:09.080 --> 01:12:10.080]  Sure.
[01:12:10.080 --> 01:12:11.080]  I don't look at any of the China data either.
[01:12:12.080 --> 01:12:16.080]  I mean, even if we get out of India and we go to South America, the ivermectin has a
[01:12:16.080 --> 01:12:18.080]  tremendous reputation down there.
[01:12:18.080 --> 01:12:19.080]  Correct.
[01:12:19.080 --> 01:12:25.080]  You can write it for somebody today, but then the pharmacy won't fill it.
[01:12:25.080 --> 01:12:27.080]  In some places, that's true.
[01:12:27.080 --> 01:12:28.080]  Yes.
[01:12:28.080 --> 01:12:29.080]  Here?
[01:12:29.080 --> 01:12:34.080]  It's just, but the point being this, and I brought this up in the presentation.
[01:12:34.080 --> 01:12:40.080]  You and I both are pretty voracious news followers because we want to keep abreast of what the
[01:12:40.080 --> 01:12:41.080]  narrative is.
[01:12:41.080 --> 01:12:42.080]  Correct.
[01:12:42.080 --> 01:12:46.080]  So a lot of times we're reading lies and we know it, but we want to know what lies are
[01:12:46.080 --> 01:12:47.080]  out there.
[01:12:47.080 --> 01:12:48.080]  Yes.
[01:12:48.080 --> 01:12:49.080]  Right.
[01:12:49.080 --> 01:12:55.080]  And here in this country, the narrative about ivermectin is completely different.
[01:12:55.080 --> 01:12:56.080]  But here-
[01:12:56.080 --> 01:12:57.080]  It's a horse to wormer.
[01:12:57.080 --> 01:12:58.080]  It's a horse to wormer.
[01:12:58.080 --> 01:13:01.080]  We're going to talk about ignorance.
[01:13:01.080 --> 01:13:03.080]  CNN was MSNBC.
[01:13:03.080 --> 01:13:06.080]  They were all speaking the horse to wormer nonsense.
[01:13:06.080 --> 01:13:07.080]  Yeah.
[01:13:08.080 --> 01:13:12.080]  Ivermectin is on who's list of essential medications for humans.
[01:13:12.080 --> 01:13:13.080]  Yes.
[01:13:13.080 --> 01:13:14.080]  They never bring that up.
[01:13:14.080 --> 01:13:17.080]  No, not that it won the Nobel Prize.
[01:13:17.080 --> 01:13:18.080]  Right.
[01:13:18.080 --> 01:13:20.080]  For humans, not for animals.
[01:13:20.080 --> 01:13:22.080]  Not for horses.
[01:13:22.080 --> 01:13:34.080]  But there's absolutely no database that we can go and say, okay, here in the United States,
[01:13:34.080 --> 01:13:40.080]  I'm just going to throw an arbitrary number, 31,000 people upon first symptoms took ivermectin
[01:13:40.080 --> 01:13:44.080]  and none of them ended up going to the hospital serious COVID-19.
[01:13:44.080 --> 01:13:45.080]  There's no database for that.
[01:13:45.080 --> 01:13:46.080]  Do you know why?
[01:13:46.080 --> 01:13:48.080]  I can tell you why.
[01:13:48.080 --> 01:13:49.080]  Okay.
[01:13:49.080 --> 01:13:55.080]  Because for the first time, for the very first time ever in medicine, we didn't treat you
[01:13:55.080 --> 01:13:57.080]  at onset of disease.
[01:13:57.080 --> 01:13:58.080]  Correct.
[01:13:58.080 --> 01:13:59.080]  For the very first time.
[01:13:59.080 --> 01:14:02.080]  You come in with it and fucking scratch on your leg, we're going to give you some damn
[01:14:02.080 --> 01:14:05.080]  antibiotics in case it was a cat and you're going to get some infection.
[01:14:05.080 --> 01:14:08.080]  You come in with a bloody nose, we're going to not be like, well, go home.
[01:14:08.080 --> 01:14:11.080]  And if you die of bleeding, then you didn't make it.
[01:14:11.080 --> 01:14:14.080]  We're going to stop the bleeding and help you.
[01:14:14.080 --> 01:14:21.080]  The very first time in medicine's history, did we say, look, you got COVID, we know you
[01:14:21.080 --> 01:14:23.080]  can't breathe very well, but go home.
[01:14:23.080 --> 01:14:24.080]  Good luck to you.
[01:14:24.080 --> 01:14:25.080]  Yeah.
[01:14:25.080 --> 01:14:26.080]  I hope you feel better in a few days.
[01:14:26.080 --> 01:14:28.080]  And if not, come back.
[01:14:28.080 --> 01:14:33.380]  So I think a lot of people wonder why, given the high regard in which ivermectin is held
[01:14:33.380 --> 01:14:38.280]  around the world outside the United States, I think people wonder why the narrative is
[01:14:38.280 --> 01:14:40.080]  so different here.
[01:14:40.080 --> 01:14:47.080]  Is it because we don't have the, what is it, the river blindness?
[01:14:47.080 --> 01:14:54.320]  Well, federal regulations prohibit the FDA from granting emergency use authorization
[01:14:54.320 --> 01:15:00.320]  to a vaccine if there is an efficacious treatment available in the country.
[01:15:00.320 --> 01:15:01.320]  Ooh.
[01:15:01.320 --> 01:15:02.320]  Yes.
[01:15:02.320 --> 01:15:05.320]  So how's that going to work with the new Pfizer pill?
[01:15:05.320 --> 01:15:11.320]  Well, it's, it's already been granted the emergency use authorization.
[01:15:11.320 --> 01:15:18.320]  They would have been prohibited from granting it if the establishment here in the United
[01:15:18.320 --> 01:15:24.160]  States has said, you know, it does actually appear that ivermectin is efficacious as a
[01:15:24.160 --> 01:15:25.160]  treatment.
[01:15:25.160 --> 01:15:31.080]  If they said that, FDA could not have granted the emergency use authorization.
[01:15:31.080 --> 01:15:32.080]  For the vaccine.
[01:15:32.080 --> 01:15:33.080]  Which isn't a vaccine.
[01:15:33.080 --> 01:15:34.080]  The therapeutic.
[01:15:34.080 --> 01:15:35.080]  Yes.
[01:15:35.080 --> 01:15:42.080]  We talked about the fact that, you know, I think the last numbers I looked at was 247
[01:15:42.080 --> 01:15:44.440]  million Americans who have been vaccinated.
[01:15:44.440 --> 01:15:45.440]  Or had the virus.
[01:15:45.440 --> 01:15:46.440]  Yeah.
[01:15:46.440 --> 01:15:50.960]  That what that comes out to, I talked about this in the presentation today, is that we
[01:15:51.760 --> 01:15:53.560]  Yeah.
[01:15:53.560 --> 01:16:00.480]  But is it number wise between Moderna, Pfizer, and was it Johnson & Johnson, Biotech, not
[01:16:00.480 --> 01:16:05.960]  Johnson, $61 million in a year.
[01:16:05.960 --> 01:16:06.960]  Wow.
[01:16:06.960 --> 01:16:07.960]  Okay.
[01:16:07.960 --> 01:16:08.960]  $61 million.
[01:16:08.960 --> 01:16:14.040]  So when people hear the adverse narrative against ivermectin in this country, they have
[01:16:14.040 --> 01:16:18.800]  to understand that if, if the establishment had actually stood up and said, yes, this
[01:16:18.800 --> 01:16:27.320]  is an efficacious treatment, Big Pharma would never have made $61 million and mRNA technology
[01:16:27.320 --> 01:16:29.000]  would not have been pushed forward a decade.
[01:16:29.000 --> 01:16:30.000]  There you go.
[01:16:30.000 --> 01:16:31.000]  Okay.
[01:16:31.000 --> 01:16:32.000]  So ivermectin is cheap.
[01:16:32.000 --> 01:16:33.000]  Yeah.
[01:16:33.000 --> 01:16:34.000]  Oh, pennies.
[01:16:34.000 --> 01:16:35.000]  Yeah.
[01:16:35.000 --> 01:16:39.160]  So I think it's really important for people to understand that the US narrative on ivermectin
[01:16:39.160 --> 01:16:42.440]  is not driven by science, it's not driven by observational studies, it's not driven
[01:16:42.440 --> 01:16:44.080]  by clinical trials.
[01:16:44.080 --> 01:16:46.440]  It's driven by politics and money.
[01:16:46.440 --> 01:16:47.440]  Right.
[01:16:47.440 --> 01:16:48.440]  Yeah.
[01:16:49.080 --> 01:16:52.800]  By the way, when you said follow the, the people behind the curtain or whatever, when
[01:16:52.800 --> 01:16:56.960]  you were talking about all the people behind the system that are making money from it.
[01:16:56.960 --> 01:16:57.960]  Yeah.
[01:16:57.960 --> 01:17:03.440]  So a lot of things posted online about ivermectin or about anything, ivermdisavir gets fact
[01:17:03.440 --> 01:17:10.440]  checked and you'll see a post come up on Instagram, Twitter, fact check, fact check, oh yeah.
[01:17:10.440 --> 01:17:17.680]  So factcheck.org is a website that shows up regularly in my personal feed.
[01:17:18.360 --> 01:17:26.320]  So I went to factcheck.org, their website, and I looked at all of the employees of factcheck.org.
[01:17:26.320 --> 01:17:27.800]  I researched every one of them.
[01:17:27.800 --> 01:17:28.800]  Okay.
[01:17:28.800 --> 01:17:29.800]  Awesome.
[01:17:29.800 --> 01:17:30.800]  I love that.
[01:17:30.800 --> 01:17:32.360]  Not one of them is a doctor.
[01:17:32.360 --> 01:17:33.360]  Of course.
[01:17:33.360 --> 01:17:35.560]  Not one of them is a medical professional.
[01:17:35.560 --> 01:17:41.240]  There's only one person that has a PhD on the entire group of people who work there.
[01:17:41.240 --> 01:17:42.240]  It's probably not science.
[01:17:42.240 --> 01:17:46.720]  No, it's journalism because every one of them is a journalist.
[01:17:46.760 --> 01:17:51.600]  Every single person that works at factcheck.org is a journalist and they're going to fact
[01:17:51.600 --> 01:17:57.800]  check the shit that I put out on a medical podcast or a medical position or a meme about
[01:17:57.800 --> 01:17:59.280]  some medical stuff.
[01:17:59.280 --> 01:18:04.040]  Granted, memes are supposed to be somewhat comedy and I know comedy is no longer a thing.
[01:18:04.040 --> 01:18:06.840]  We can't have to cancel every comedian in the fucking world now.
[01:18:06.840 --> 01:18:10.720]  But the point is, is that if I put something out there and it gets fact checked by these
[01:18:10.720 --> 01:18:13.920]  douchebags, like that makes no sense to me.
[01:18:13.920 --> 01:18:14.920]  Oh yeah.
[01:18:15.120 --> 01:18:18.840]  But a journalist, a journalist that used to work at the New York Times or a journalist
[01:18:18.840 --> 01:18:26.640]  that used to work for the Chicago Tribune is now working at factcheck.org and they know,
[01:18:26.640 --> 01:18:30.320]  if you know the facts, why don't you post them, dude?
[01:18:30.320 --> 01:18:33.040]  If you're saying this isn't factual.
[01:18:33.040 --> 01:18:37.360]  All they do is they reference some establishment websites such as CDC or NIH or American Heart
[01:18:37.360 --> 01:18:38.360]  Association.
[01:18:38.360 --> 01:18:41.240]  Which you and I both know are also wrong.
[01:18:41.240 --> 01:18:42.560]  Yes, frequently.
[01:18:42.560 --> 01:18:43.800]  Frequently wrong.
[01:18:43.800 --> 01:18:47.280]  So all they do is they go out to establishment sources, which they never fact check by the
[01:18:47.280 --> 01:18:48.280]  way.
[01:18:48.280 --> 01:18:49.280]  No, no, no.
[01:18:49.280 --> 01:18:50.280]  They don't fact check the establishment.
[01:18:50.280 --> 01:18:51.280]  Never.
[01:18:51.280 --> 01:18:52.280]  Never.
[01:18:52.280 --> 01:18:53.280]  Let's not fact check them.
[01:18:53.280 --> 01:18:56.240]  Let's just fact check the people who are against them or who are driving a different narrative.
[01:18:56.240 --> 01:18:57.240]  Yeah.
[01:18:57.240 --> 01:19:00.520]  And the other thing is they don't fact check, a lot of these fact check organizations are
[01:19:00.520 --> 01:19:07.400]  owned by media companies and they don't fact check their competitors because they don't
[01:19:07.400 --> 01:19:09.840]  want their competitors fact checking them.
[01:19:09.840 --> 01:19:14.120]  So the two things that are off limits for fact checkers are things said by competitive
[01:19:14.120 --> 01:19:18.640]  media sources and things put out by the establishment.
[01:19:18.640 --> 01:19:24.720]  Which means that all they're really trying to do is support and maintain and claim that
[01:19:24.720 --> 01:19:27.600]  the establishment narrative is the only credible narrative.
[01:19:27.600 --> 01:19:32.680]  Which is pretty much sort of Orwellian, communistic, you know, what the government says is right
[01:19:32.680 --> 01:19:34.480]  and everybody else is wrong.
[01:19:34.480 --> 01:19:35.480]  Right.
[01:19:35.480 --> 01:19:35.500]  Okay.