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[00:00.000 --> 00:07.520]  Um, let's you want to take a look at this, uh, I'm gonna pronounce this wrong. Um, we're
[00:10.400 --> 00:11.680]  Molina
[00:11.680 --> 00:18.160]  Parivir. Yeah. Molina parivir. Okay, that's uh, that's the new drug that pfizer's coming out with yeah, it's new
[00:19.040 --> 00:25.520]  Covid treatment. Yeah, the covid treatment which to me says that the vaccine mandates can go the fuck away
[00:26.480 --> 00:28.880]  If you have a treatment, it's not the agenda, but yes
[00:30.640 --> 00:32.640]  On a rational basis on a rational. Yeah
[00:33.440 --> 00:38.480]  Let's think about this as human normal people would oh if you have a treatment for it
[00:39.040 --> 00:41.040]  I don't need to be vaccinated. So
[00:41.520 --> 00:44.240]  Dr. Scott Gottlieb who is a former?
[00:45.280 --> 00:50.160]  FDA commissioner. Yes. He recently said of this drug. I can't pronounce the pfizer
[00:50.320 --> 00:54.000]  Of course, we can't pronounce any of the damn drug names because I told you they throw shit on a scrabble board
[00:54.320 --> 01:00.160]  They screw up they throw scrabble tiles on a pool table and whatever it spells when they throw it out there the letters
[01:00.240 --> 01:02.080]  That's the name of the drug
[01:02.080 --> 01:03.840]  so he said that
[01:03.840 --> 01:08.320]  Um, this new pfizer product is the quote the end of the pandemic close quote
[01:08.720 --> 01:13.840]  So, I don't know if you you remember this, but I remember that the vaccine was
[01:14.540 --> 01:18.480]  Originally the end of the pandemic. Well, that was the pitch, right? Correct
[01:18.560 --> 01:26.080]  But see Fauci has purposefully moved the goalpost every time so initially he said it was if 60
[01:27.200 --> 01:30.320]  Get vaccinated. I think it was 60 or 56 get vaccinated. We're good
[01:30.560 --> 01:35.840]  And then it was 70 something and then it was 80 something and then it was 90. It's constantly moving
[01:36.240 --> 01:39.760]  Yeah, and never like you'll never reach it. You'll never succeed
[01:40.880 --> 01:42.240]  and of course
[01:42.240 --> 01:44.240]  For reasons we're going to get into shortly
[01:44.800 --> 01:51.040]  If 100 of the population was vaccinated it would still not end what they call a pandemic by the way
[01:51.200 --> 01:52.800]  I think we're at like
[01:52.800 --> 01:54.800]  As far as the u.s death toll were like
[01:55.740 --> 01:56.880]  2.1
[01:56.880 --> 01:58.640]  tenths of one percent
[01:58.640 --> 02:00.080]  Okay
[02:00.080 --> 02:01.980]  so by the
[02:01.980 --> 02:06.160]  earlier World Health Organization definition of pandemic this
[02:06.880 --> 02:08.880]  Would not qualify as a pandemic
[02:08.880 --> 02:14.480]  Not only that but the average age of death is older than the average age of death for normal people in the u.s
[02:14.720 --> 02:21.760]  Yeah, just outside the it's like 70 77 years old or whatever 76 years old and the average age of death is 74
[02:21.920 --> 02:24.480]  Yeah, so average life expectancy for a
[02:25.360 --> 02:29.140]  Human in the united states is like 74 years. And of course pfizer
[02:30.080 --> 02:30.880]  is
[02:30.880 --> 02:32.240]  saying that
[02:32.240 --> 02:34.000]  their new
[02:34.000 --> 02:36.000]  covid treatment pill
[02:36.720 --> 02:41.840]  Reduces hospitalizations and death by 90 percent now the uk why we hear that before right?
[02:42.640 --> 02:48.160]  The uk has already signed contracts to have a massive amount of this new pfizer drugs of course they have
[02:48.880 --> 02:54.160]  Here just shortly with the next week or two. It's going to be evaluated for emergency use authorization by the fda
[02:54.640 --> 03:01.440]  I think it's important to note that pfizer's claims its data that it claims supports its number of 90 percent
[03:02.000 --> 03:04.000]  um have not been
[03:04.080 --> 03:05.360]  provided to
[03:05.420 --> 03:09.840]  Anyone they've not been published. No, it is merely pfizer making a claim. So
[03:11.600 --> 03:19.040]  We know that historically pfizer has actually been fined hundreds of millions of dollars for falsifying trial data information on drugs
[03:19.200 --> 03:21.600]  Yes, uh, we also know you remember this
[03:22.800 --> 03:27.140]  The first claims of pfizer concerning its mrna vaccine for sars-cov-2
[03:27.760 --> 03:31.360]  Was 90 efficacy at preventing infection, right? Okay
[03:31.920 --> 03:36.960]  Um, and then we found out that that wasn't remotely true in the real world
[03:37.680 --> 03:40.800]  It was true for the first day on the first hour. You got the vaccine
[03:42.080 --> 03:46.480]  Yeah, the first day in the first hour that you got your second dose. You were 90 percent
[03:47.120 --> 03:49.840]  After that it started to wane. I knew we were in trouble
[03:50.320 --> 03:54.640]  You probably saw this story since you do work in hospitals in vegas. This goes back quite a few months now
[03:55.120 --> 04:00.000]  Um, there was a pool party of hospital. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah highlighted on my show. Okay, so
[04:00.480 --> 04:05.920]  Uh 11 of the participants ended up testing positive after that pool party
[04:05.920 --> 04:11.840]  Yeah, but eight of them had a vaccine eight of them were vaccinated. Right. Right. Right. So yeah do the math on that shit, right?
[04:11.920 --> 04:15.280]  Well, here's my question. Why did we not look at the person who wasn't
[04:15.840 --> 04:20.480]  There was one person who didn't get covid. Yeah, why didn't we look at them? What's the difference?
[04:20.560 --> 04:27.600]  Why didn't they fucking get it dude? Why are we not looking at the people like I have family members that have got covid and
[04:28.400 --> 04:34.320]  Like her fat husband didn't get covid. Yeah, she did and she they slept in the same bed
[04:34.560 --> 04:36.800]  Yeah, she was she was breastfeeding her child
[04:36.800 --> 04:43.120]  She had just had a kid still breastfeeding her baby and her other young son was there at home doing his thing
[04:43.520 --> 04:47.280]  No one else the family got it, but she got it and she had a really bad case of it
[04:47.360 --> 04:51.520]  She didn't go to the hospital, but she felt really sick. Yeah, she didn't get monoclonal antibodies
[04:51.520 --> 04:56.720]  She didn't get any ivermectin or hydroxychloroquine to treat her. She just sucked it up
[04:57.360 --> 05:00.080]  Like a good wyoming girl does and dealt with it
[05:00.720 --> 05:04.960]  But guess what nobody was like let's look at her husband and find out why he didn't get it
[05:05.040 --> 05:10.720]  Yeah, what is the difference in his dna? What is the difference in his blood? What's what's different?
[05:10.880 --> 05:15.680]  Why didn't he get it? What makes that difference because if we could identify that?
[05:16.080 --> 05:20.880]  Yes, then you could go through a group of people and say, okay this person won't get it this person now
[05:20.880 --> 05:24.640]  We can identify what it's truly attacking. Yeah, innate immunity
[05:25.360 --> 05:26.560]  Right
[05:26.560 --> 05:30.480]  All right. So let's shift because this is going on and on and on which I love I love it
[05:30.480 --> 05:34.240]  Yeah, yeah, by the way, i'll share with the audience something I shared with tyler, which is i'm real
[05:34.240 --> 05:36.240]  I was really excited to do this because
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[05:42.640 --> 05:47.120]  So because of video presentations video audiences don't want an hour-long content
[05:47.600 --> 05:49.680]  Um, so I have to keep things very short
[05:49.760 --> 05:55.040]  So this is a luxury to sit here with my friend the long form and kick around
[05:55.360 --> 05:59.680]  Subjects we both feel passionately about for essentially as long as it takes, right?
[06:00.640 --> 06:02.640]  You're you got to hand over a button. Are you?
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[06:07.120 --> 06:09.120]  Okay, does that sound good to you? Yeah, great
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[08:28.640 --> 08:30.720]  We're back with dave. What's up dave? Okay
[08:30.720 --> 08:34.320]  I'm going to start this out by reading something if you don't mind because uh,
[08:35.120 --> 08:42.320]  I tend to ramble but when I write i'm much more succinct. Okay, and this should give the audience a complete
[08:43.340 --> 08:49.040]  Framework in which to understand the conversation that comes thereafter. Okay, so this was actually written to a friend of mine
[08:49.360 --> 08:55.840]  Okay, so bear that in mind. There's a couple comments here that seem perhaps like i'm speaking to somebody and I am okay
[08:56.800 --> 09:00.320]  It says this sometimes I know something is so
[09:01.280 --> 09:02.800]  even
[09:02.800 --> 09:05.840]  If i've not sorry, i'm trying to read around the microphone
[09:06.960 --> 09:10.960]  Sometimes I know something is so even if i've not yet uncovered the mechanism
[09:11.840 --> 09:19.360]  I've been saying the reason the vaccines don't activate production of memory t cells is because all the vaccines produced
[09:19.760 --> 09:26.240]  Is a as an s spike protein, which is a far cry from a complete viral pathogen
[09:27.200 --> 09:31.600]  Absent having the complete pathogen from which to build a quote profile
[09:32.480 --> 09:36.000]  There is no way for the body to create memory t cells
[09:36.720 --> 09:40.640]  That process requires complete pathogen data
[09:41.360 --> 09:43.600]  A fragment is insufficient
[09:44.720 --> 09:52.480]  Turns out the complete antigen is taken up into b cells where the antigen is broken into mhc2 peptide complexes
[09:53.040 --> 09:57.520]  And quote recognized thus establishing the aforementioned profile
[09:58.240 --> 10:05.680]  That profile is transmitted to cd4 t cells, which we know differentiate into various types of t cells
[10:06.080 --> 10:14.800]  Including memory t cells as you've probably read what causes a cd4 t cell to differentiate into memory t cells is
[10:15.760 --> 10:18.000]  poorly understood close quote
[10:18.880 --> 10:20.320]  Not to me
[10:20.320 --> 10:24.800]  A cd4 cell only differentiates into a memory t cell after a b cell
[10:25.420 --> 10:29.360]  Transmits a pathogen profile to the cd4 t cell
[10:30.080 --> 10:36.160]  Absent the existence of a pathogen profile. There is zero need for the body to produce memory t cells
[10:36.560 --> 10:41.120]  So the cd4 t cells differentiate into other non-memory versions
[10:41.840 --> 10:46.320]  A pathogen profile is the key that activates production of memory t cells
[10:46.960 --> 10:54.720]  This process is built to work from a complete profile a fragment fragment won't trigger the production
[10:55.520 --> 10:58.960]  While creating a pathogen profile is the job of the b cells
[10:59.360 --> 11:06.880]  Creating a record of which types of t cells were differentiated in order to overcome the pathogen is the job of the dendritic cells
[11:07.520 --> 11:11.680]  All of this data is eventually transferred to and retained by memory t cells
[11:12.080 --> 11:15.840]  However, if there is insufficient pathogen profile data
[11:16.240 --> 11:22.880]  In the form of nhc2 peptide complexes from which to signal cd4 cells to differentiate into memory t cells
[11:22.880 --> 11:25.040]  There is no location in which to store
[11:25.600 --> 11:27.360]  any of the data
[11:27.360 --> 11:33.680]  and then I go on to talk about the understanding of why mhc peptide tetramar staining technology is the only type of technology
[11:34.320 --> 11:37.280]  that actually proves the existence of memory t cells and
[11:39.040 --> 11:41.040]  Why the
[11:41.660 --> 11:48.400]  Industry funded studies that claim the vaccines produce memory t cells don't use mhc
[11:48.960 --> 11:54.000]  Peptide tetramar staining technology because it will prove straight up thumbs up or thumbs down
[11:55.040 --> 11:59.680]  Whether those memory t cells exist right all the studies that claim memory t cells exist
[12:00.560 --> 12:05.520]  Have never touched that technology all of their conclusions are
[12:06.160 --> 12:08.160]  Implied or inferential
[12:08.160 --> 12:08.800]  so for instance
[12:08.800 --> 12:14.080]  They'll find interleukin 2 and they'll say well interleukin 2 is highly associated with the cd8 and cd4 t cells
[12:14.320 --> 12:21.680]  So there must be memory cells. Yeah. No, no science doesn't work that way. Well it does now. Yeah, so
[12:22.480 --> 12:25.120]  It's the way I want it to work. So therefore it works that way. Yeah
[12:25.600 --> 12:29.760]  So I guess the the takeaway I know that was people kind of going what did he just say?
[12:29.920 --> 12:34.640]  Yeah, there's a lot of science in that that four paragraphs. There's a lot of science in there
[12:34.800 --> 12:36.800]  So I think the important thing is this
[12:37.360 --> 12:42.480]  Depending on how you look at the anatomy of a virus. There's someplace between 16 to 19
[12:43.760 --> 12:47.440]  individual characteristics the of the anatomy of a virus that
[12:48.620 --> 12:50.000]  cumulatively
[12:50.000 --> 12:53.760]  Render that virus unique. It's almost like a fingerprint if you will
[12:54.800 --> 13:00.960]  And what happens is the b cells actually absorb a whole virus
[13:01.120 --> 13:06.320]  And then they take that virus and they break it down to the mhc
[13:07.200 --> 13:11.280]  Peptide complexes which the way I i'm hoping to characterize it to people
[13:11.920 --> 13:18.160]  Is that it's like creating it's like digitizing something, right? Okay, so i've got this this here
[13:18.240 --> 13:22.800]  That's not digital, but but I want to store this in a way that's meaningful. So i'm going to digitize it
[13:22.800 --> 13:23.520]  Okay
[13:23.520 --> 13:30.560]  So that's kind of the analogy i'm using to what the b cells do when they break the virus apart and they create these mhc
[13:31.200 --> 13:33.200]  To peptide complexes
[13:33.520 --> 13:36.560]  They're digitizing the data that that's the analogy
[13:37.440 --> 13:39.440]  Um and then storing that data
[13:39.840 --> 13:45.520]  Well, they don't store it. They actually transmit it to the cd4 t cells which then store it
[13:46.880 --> 13:48.880]  Well the cd
[13:49.760 --> 13:53.520]  Now I want to be clear that the part i'm saying now is
[13:54.240 --> 14:00.640]  Uh my hypothesis which i'm 1000 percent confident is 100 correct. Okay. Okay. I want to be clear
[14:00.640 --> 14:06.160]  It's a hypothesis, but it's so obvious. It's like right to call it a hypothesis is almost like really the earth's round
[14:06.480 --> 14:07.520]  Okay. Yeah
[14:07.520 --> 14:08.800]  Exactly
[14:08.800 --> 14:10.800]  Well, it's not completely round
[14:12.400 --> 14:19.520]  So anyway, um what happens is the b cells transmit the data set over to the cd4 t cells
[14:20.480 --> 14:25.040]  um the cd4 t cells differentiate into different kinds of t cells, but
[14:25.520 --> 14:29.200]  Um the absolutely certain hypothesis. How's that right?
[14:29.520 --> 14:31.520]  Um is that
[14:31.680 --> 14:35.200]  cd4 t cells only differentiate into
[14:35.820 --> 14:37.820]  memory t cells
[14:38.000 --> 14:44.560]  After they've received the data set from the b cells make sense. Well, that's it has to be that way. Otherwise
[14:45.120 --> 14:50.240]  You're you're not creating the c4. Well, why would you need a memory t cell if you don't have any data, right? Right?
[14:50.320 --> 14:53.440]  Okay, so I don't need the storage base if I don't have anything to store
[14:54.000 --> 14:58.160]  Yeah, so if you don't if you don't in this pathogen profile that that's another term
[14:58.160 --> 15:04.080]  I created in order to help illustrate to people the everybody understands profile, right? Right, right. They go on facebook
[15:04.080 --> 15:05.600]  They create a profile
[15:05.600 --> 15:06.800]  so
[15:06.800 --> 15:13.200]  This data set that i'm talking about that the the b cell breaks it down into the mhc2 peptide
[15:13.840 --> 15:15.840]  Complex that data set
[15:16.960 --> 15:22.800]  Um is the profile it's the pathogen profile, but it's based on the b cell
[15:23.440 --> 15:25.520]  Consumes or takes into itself
[15:26.240 --> 15:28.800]  The entire virus that's what yeah exactly
[15:28.800 --> 15:32.720]  That's why the people who have already been infected have a better immunity than the people who had a vaccine
[15:32.800 --> 15:41.040]  Yes, so what happens is, um that fingerprint of the virus then gets transmitted to the cd4 t cell and the cd4 t cell says ah
[15:43.040 --> 15:48.080]  This is the pathogen profile that that a memory t cell needs so it then
[15:49.260 --> 15:50.960]  differentiates into
[15:50.960 --> 15:54.960]  A memory t cell, okay. Okay pretty straightforward stuff in my opinion
[15:54.960 --> 15:58.080]  Yeah, even though science is a little I hate to say this sounds arrogant to sell
[15:58.720 --> 16:03.680]  Science is a little bit behind me on this, right? Um, and I don't mean they're behind me. I mean
[16:04.240 --> 16:08.880]  They're behind you. Yeah, i'm i'm they're not catching up fast enough. How's that? Right? Um
[16:10.240 --> 16:12.400]  So that's the first part of the equation
[16:12.480 --> 16:18.800]  the second part of the equation is that the dendritic cells they keep track of
[16:18.880 --> 16:24.720]  Of which forms of t cells the the base t cells the cd8 so the cd4
[16:25.120 --> 16:29.680]  Which forms they differentiate into effector t cells killer t cells memory t cells and so forth
[16:30.400 --> 16:31.840]  Of which there's
[16:31.840 --> 16:35.760]  There are essentially subsets. There's like 20. They're essentially the rolodex. Yes
[16:36.320 --> 16:38.320]  So the the dendritic cells
[16:38.800 --> 16:46.320]  They keep track of that differentiation. Okay. How did how did that structure work? How many killer t cells did we have?
[16:46.880 --> 16:50.720]  How many effector t cells do we have and so forth? Okay, but then guess what?
[16:51.440 --> 16:55.600]  The dendric cells also provide that information to the cd4 t cells
[16:55.920 --> 17:01.280]  Okay, so these redundancy so the memory cd4 i'm, sorry the the
[17:01.760 --> 17:05.600]  After the cd4 differentiates into the memory t cell the memory t cell create
[17:06.960 --> 17:08.400]  maintains
[17:08.400 --> 17:15.440]  Not only the pathogen profile but also the structural profile of how the body responded to defeat the pathogen
[17:15.680 --> 17:21.120]  Okay, so it's got the equation and it's got the profile right? So it's got the problem and the solution correct
[17:21.920 --> 17:23.840]  great way to put that
[17:23.840 --> 17:26.640]  Okay. So here's the problem with the vaccines and I think this is
[17:27.280 --> 17:29.280]  really critical for people to understand
[17:30.000 --> 17:33.600]  What the vaccine does the the uh, mrna vaccine?
[17:34.560 --> 17:37.600]  um, and also all to digress for one second
[17:38.160 --> 17:42.320]  The hilarity of all of this is that no one gave a shit about any of this until this
[17:43.280 --> 17:44.880]  Right, right, right
[17:44.880 --> 17:48.720]  Um average person, I mean, yeah people did we did we're nerds
[17:48.880 --> 17:51.920]  Yeah, there's a lot of people who didn't like the s tech of thing
[17:52.080 --> 17:54.640]  It does the same thing as the rma, but it starts with the dna
[17:54.960 --> 17:59.200]  Okay, but for people i'm not going to go too into depth to this but what happens is the
[18:00.640 --> 18:02.640]  the vaccine
[18:02.640 --> 18:04.800]  enters one of your cells
[18:05.840 --> 18:06.880]  and it
[18:06.880 --> 18:08.980]  It signals something called transcription
[18:09.060 --> 18:10.260]  Transcription
[18:10.260 --> 18:17.940]  And so what happens is inside the cell your own cell's genomes produce a part of the virus
[18:18.420 --> 18:24.340]  Okay, that's that's how these vaccines work and the part of the virus that they produce in this particular case with this particular
[18:24.960 --> 18:28.660]  Coronavirus is the s spike protein. You've probably all seen that in the news
[18:29.780 --> 18:30.900]  so
[18:30.900 --> 18:32.900]  Now we've got this s spike protein
[18:33.140 --> 18:37.140]  and a law and that does engender a response of
[18:37.680 --> 18:42.820]  Neutralizing antibodies with the same spike protein. Yes
[18:44.100 --> 18:46.100]  and you know the
[18:48.260 --> 18:52.200]  Now when these b cells take up the pathogen
[18:54.020 --> 18:59.540]  It's not the virus. It's not that fingerprint. It doesn't have that 15 16 18 19
[19:00.100 --> 19:02.500]  Points of interest different unique factors
[19:03.220 --> 19:05.620]  It's only one of those
[19:05.620 --> 19:10.500]  It's a spike protein period correct, which is not enough to identify. It's very narrow
[19:11.220 --> 19:13.220]  very narrow spectrum, so
[19:14.180 --> 19:17.700]  Here's where things get a little fuzzy and i'm sure research could clear it up
[19:18.580 --> 19:20.820]  Because there is not really a pathogen profile
[19:21.620 --> 19:24.180]  There's just a tiny fragment of what should be there
[19:25.140 --> 19:26.980]  does
[19:26.980 --> 19:28.980]  do b cells
[19:28.980 --> 19:34.020]  Actually transmit the information to the memory t cells, we don't have that information right now
[19:34.900 --> 19:39.860]  No, but we can make the hypothesis that it doesn't because of the efficacy wanes over time
[19:40.260 --> 19:43.380]  well, even if it did it may be a case that the
[19:44.580 --> 19:46.580]  cd4 t cells
[19:46.580 --> 19:47.540]  say
[19:47.540 --> 19:51.700]  Dude, that's not enough data for us to differentiate into memory t cells
[19:52.260 --> 19:57.700]  Right, but that's what i'm saying. Maybe they don't eat. Maybe none of it even operates that way, right? So my point is
[19:58.580 --> 20:00.020]  Where does the breakdown occur is right?
[20:00.020 --> 20:04.980]  Is it that the b cells say I don't have enough data to transmit or is it the cd4 cells say I haven't received
[20:05.380 --> 20:10.660]  During that transmission. I didn't receive enough data to react on right almost like in a broken phone conversation
[20:10.660 --> 20:13.780]  You're going through a tunnel and all you hear is hey, can you help me?
[20:14.100 --> 20:18.660]  But that's it. So all you know is that someone needs help. You don't know where they are right what they're doing
[20:19.220 --> 20:22.180]  What's wrong what the problem is what help do they need?
[20:22.340 --> 20:26.580]  Do they need help with a math problem or are they dying? Like what's the help that they're looking for here?
[20:27.700 --> 20:32.580]  So neutralizing antibodies, I mentioned a moment ago that the spike protein does engender a
[20:33.680 --> 20:38.500]  Neutralizing antibody response from the body's immune the adaptive immune process
[20:39.620 --> 20:45.640]  That's very natural very normal. Our bodies typically do that all the time to various pathogens if they're considered pathogenic
[20:48.180 --> 20:54.340]  So but but neutralizing antibodies in their very nature are temporary why
[20:55.300 --> 20:57.300]  Because of memory t cells
[20:57.460 --> 21:04.180]  Right, you you don't need to produce and have circulating in your bloodstream neutralizing antibodies all the time
[21:04.580 --> 21:09.060]  Because the neutralizing antibodies their job is to go out and kick ass and defeat the pathogen, right?
[21:09.380 --> 21:13.220]  So once that's done how to learn how to beat it and remember how to beat it so that later
[21:13.460 --> 21:18.740]  Yes, they can beat it if it comes back. Yes, and you can marshal all those resources in the snap of a finger later
[21:18.980 --> 21:24.180]  Right. Okay. So the neutralizing antibodies once they do their job once the pathogen has been defeated
[21:24.740 --> 21:26.740]  They fade it is
[21:26.740 --> 21:29.140]  Absolutely, they don't turn off like a light switch. They just fade away
[21:29.380 --> 21:35.620]  Okay, the back refers function of the body and it eventually consumes them and there are certain kinds of t cells that actually
[21:37.460 --> 21:45.380]  Diminish the effect of neutralizing antibodies over time because otherwise you might develop a negative immune response if they continue to be
[21:46.420 --> 21:49.060]  If they continue to react strongly to something that isn't present, right?
[21:49.700 --> 21:53.380]  Or start to consume you. Yes, so eventually they fade away
[21:53.780 --> 21:57.780]  It's very common that neutralizing antibodies fade away someplace between four and eight months
[21:57.780 --> 22:02.020]  Depends on the pathogen depends on the person and so forth. There is no hard and fast rule for that
[22:02.660 --> 22:04.900]  Now four four to eight months, huh?
[22:05.700 --> 22:13.140]  What's the average there are six which coincidentally happens to be just about the point where you need a booster very little protection from
[22:13.540 --> 22:15.380]  the neutralizing
[22:15.380 --> 22:19.620]  Very little protection from the vaccine mrna quote unquote vaccine. Yes
[22:20.340 --> 22:22.340]  quote unquote
[22:22.500 --> 22:24.900]  So the reason for that is the the body
[22:25.620 --> 22:27.620]  It's the body that creates
[22:27.780 --> 22:33.940]  The spike and it's the body that creates the neutralizing antibody response to the spike and it's the body's
[22:35.060 --> 22:38.500]  Neutralizing antibodies defeat the spikes that destroy them. Okay
[22:39.620 --> 22:45.540]  All that is totally natural as is this thing that now the public knows as waning, right?
[22:46.500 --> 22:48.500]  Which just nothing more than fading away
[22:48.660 --> 22:51.460]  okay, so then it fades away and the
[22:52.340 --> 22:54.340]  Immunity such as it is
[22:54.340 --> 22:55.620]  um
[22:55.620 --> 22:58.020]  The neutralizing antibodies they fade away
[22:59.060 --> 23:00.660]  with that
[23:00.660 --> 23:02.180]  you
[23:02.180 --> 23:05.140]  It let's say they faded away to zero just for the point of illustration, right?
[23:06.260 --> 23:10.500]  People would be just as prone to infection as if they'd never been vaccinated and they'd be just as prone to
[23:11.140 --> 23:11.940]  um
[23:11.940 --> 23:13.940]  moderate or severe covid as
[23:14.260 --> 23:19.380]  As if they'd never been vaccinated because their body will not build an immune response to it because it doesn't know it needs to
[23:19.540 --> 23:21.540]  No memory t-cells to do that with right?
[23:21.620 --> 23:25.780]  So every single shot is a temporary fix is really what it boils down to because to me
[23:25.860 --> 23:31.940]  This is just like the flu. You have to have a flu quote unquote vaccine every year. That's a fucking therapeutic. That's not a vaccine
[23:32.420 --> 23:37.940]  Now what happens is when these vaccine neutralizing antibodies wane, they don't wane a hundred percent
[23:37.940 --> 23:41.620]  I use that only for illustrative examples, correct? So they they wane to say
[23:42.240 --> 23:48.260]  60 or 48 or 39 percent. We've heard that's that's only numbers we have we don't know
[23:49.220 --> 23:54.660]  Further than that, correct and because we haven't been further and we've heard different numbers from all over the globe, correct?
[23:54.660 --> 23:59.220]  Okay, so so we don't know whether it's 60 40 33 24, you know
[24:00.740 --> 24:02.740]  We know it's nowhere near
[24:03.200 --> 24:09.380]  95 that was promised. Yeah, it was never 100 at best on the best day of the best circumstances
[24:09.380 --> 24:14.020]  It was 95 and then it begins to wane. Correct. Um, I saw it was different for everybody
[24:14.100 --> 24:20.260]  I saw one study that said they start to wane in a at a noticeable level by two and a half months
[24:20.660 --> 24:21.700]  Okay, okay
[24:21.700 --> 24:25.700]  Um by six months, you don't have much protection left. That's just the reality
[24:25.700 --> 24:31.060]  But and it would be that way with your with your body based on the natural infection from the wild virus
[24:31.220 --> 24:33.300]  Okay, correct. No difference in that regard
[24:33.300 --> 24:36.740]  But the difference is the difference is you would have a memory from the wild virus
[24:37.060 --> 24:40.820]  Correct, and this doesn't build a memory. Yes. So this
[24:41.460 --> 24:46.580]  Creates an interesting dilemma. So somebody goes out they get they get the vaccine
[24:47.140 --> 24:52.020]  I think if we were to line up 100 people who have been vaccinated and ask that 100 people
[24:52.340 --> 24:57.220]  How many of them thought that after they had their initially after they had their second shot they were protected for life
[24:57.700 --> 25:02.020]  Um, they like 99 percent of them would say yes at the time. Yes. Yes
[25:02.180 --> 25:06.180]  Okay, they thought they were two shots unprotected. All right, good. I felt like I had a bullet
[25:06.260 --> 25:08.660]  I was walking in the room without masks on fucking
[25:11.380 --> 25:17.700]  Oh, I was just reading an article today where people were saying that now, you know now that i'm vaccinated i'm i'm getting back to my life
[25:18.580 --> 25:24.180]  But the problem is it's six months later. You don't have very much protection left. And if if you didn't choose a booster
[25:24.900 --> 25:29.380]  By eight or nine months, I mean we haven't even seen the figures on that. Nobody's talking about that
[25:29.460 --> 25:32.660]  No, but if you don't have the booster and you get to eight nine ten months, I mean
[25:33.140 --> 25:39.060]  You're i'm there now whatever protection exists would have to be like, you know eight minutes and nine percent
[25:39.060 --> 25:45.620]  So I had the moderna vaccine. I got both shots. Obviously almost fully vaccinated which I hate that term because either you are or you're not
[25:45.860 --> 25:50.100]  Yeah, either you've received the vaccine which is a serious like you can't
[25:50.660 --> 25:54.660]  A hep b vaccine is three different doses over the course of months
[25:55.300 --> 25:57.860]  Yeah, okay. It's not weeks. It's not it's months
[25:58.020 --> 26:04.900]  Yeah, so you're not vaccinated against hep b unless you've been through all three of the shots. Yeah, it's it's a staged process, correct
[26:05.140 --> 26:09.780]  So this just needs to this whole half vaccinated bullshit needs to stop that narrative needs to go away
[26:10.100 --> 26:16.580]  But I received moderna in january. I received my first dose and a december second dose in january
[26:17.140 --> 26:20.260]  So we were one of the first ones to get it. We worked in the hospital. Sure
[26:20.900 --> 26:24.580]  The irony is the ceo was the first person to get the dose in that hospital
[26:25.380 --> 26:32.180]  The ceo of mountain view hospital was the first person to get the dose at mountain view hospital. He doesn't see patients
[26:33.140 --> 26:39.220]  He doesn't treat patients he's a business guy he has an mba you might have just been trying to set an example
[26:39.220 --> 26:40.580]  You never know
[26:40.580 --> 26:43.700]  At the time there was only so many doses and only some people could get them
[26:44.580 --> 26:50.660]  I'm just saying that if you're the businessman the example you said is I want my people who treat patients to be protected not
[26:50.980 --> 26:52.180]  Save me
[26:52.180 --> 26:55.620]  Right, right. I looked at it when he got that vaccine
[26:56.100 --> 27:01.860]  As he was pushing women and children out of the way to save his own ass on the lifeboat
[27:02.260 --> 27:09.380]  As the right as the titanic sank like he was the dude i'm gonna help people and shoving people in the fucking ocean
[27:12.100 --> 27:16.180]  That's how I viewed it and I still think of it that way because I don't really care but
[27:17.140 --> 27:23.540]  My point is is that i'm now it's now december november almost december. I'm 11 months since my second dose
[27:24.180 --> 27:32.100]  So i'm due for and i've been messaged and they've sent the hospital sent me an email and a text and another email and a follow-up email
[27:32.660 --> 27:34.740]  about getting my booster because I
[27:35.380 --> 27:41.060]  Fit in the criteria for boosters. They've made a criteria based on if you work with high risk
[27:41.460 --> 27:45.700]  You know in a high risk environment and while I work in a high risk environment. I work in a hospital. Yeah
[27:47.220 --> 27:49.220]  Sorry, i'm not getting a booster. Well
[27:49.700 --> 27:51.220]  you know
[27:51.220 --> 27:58.340]  Cdc has been threatening to change its definition of fully vaccinated. They are dead. Oh, did they yes somehow
[27:58.340 --> 28:01.300]  I missed that story from two two shots to three shots
[28:01.700 --> 28:06.820]  Oh, they haven't switched it to three shots yet, but they did change the definition of vaccinated
[28:06.980 --> 28:12.020]  Yeah, I changed that but they they they are having internal discussions right now
[28:12.580 --> 28:16.340]  About changing the definition of fully vaccinated from two shots to three shots
[28:17.140 --> 28:22.900]  Was it italy that did that i think italy didn't the question in my mind because we've talked about the fact that the third the
[28:23.380 --> 28:27.780]  Third shot doesn't do anything magical. No, okay, just but it just it gives you another six months
[28:28.980 --> 28:30.180]  um
[28:30.180 --> 28:32.740]  So my question can down the road is what?
[28:33.700 --> 28:35.700]  Are they going to have the balls?
[28:36.100 --> 28:38.420]  Six months from five months from now more realistically
[28:39.460 --> 28:44.020]  To say yes now you need a fourth shot. Yes, they have yes, that's coming
[28:44.180 --> 28:49.780]  And following that decision shortly thereafter saying well, we're going to change the definition of fully vaccinated to four shots
[28:50.100 --> 28:55.080]  I don't think they'll ever change the definition of fully vaccinated. I think it'll become an annual vaccination
[28:56.340 --> 29:00.420]  I think or semi-annual or semi-annual depending on their their waning
[29:01.380 --> 29:03.380]  definition or the amount that it's
[29:04.000 --> 29:06.740]  Effications over time don't get me wrong. I feel
[29:07.620 --> 29:13.780]  There's a couple things that couch this conversation in first is I think that the vaccine I initially was against it
[29:14.020 --> 29:16.020]  I was really against the vaccine
[29:16.100 --> 29:20.260]  um, but i'm not against the vaccine in its entirety anymore
[29:21.060 --> 29:25.140]  I'm against the vaccine for a certain subset of the population
[29:26.100 --> 29:31.380]  I don't think kids need it. I don't think people under 18 need this vaccine. I think it's stupid
[29:32.340 --> 29:35.860]  Vaccinate the shit out of the 60 to 90 year olds or 60 and above
[29:36.420 --> 29:38.900]  Vaccinate all of them. I think it's beneficial for them
[29:39.780 --> 29:42.180]  you know, but I don't think so I
[29:43.140 --> 29:45.140]  To be clear. I don't think we've
[29:45.780 --> 29:47.780]  truly viewed this
[29:48.180 --> 29:51.060]  As the disease it is we are applying
[29:51.700 --> 29:58.820]  To every person equally the same treatment. Absolutely instead of differentiating between age groups
[29:59.300 --> 30:01.300]  and high risk groups
[30:01.540 --> 30:07.220]  I mean the kids that have died all had some comorbidity cancer leukemia serious comorbidities
[30:08.180 --> 30:14.580]  Not like they were obese, I mean there there's been obese kids that recovered from co i'm saying the kids that died from covet had
[30:15.460 --> 30:19.300]  Probably wouldn't have died from covet. They would have died from the other disease that was killing them
[30:19.460 --> 30:25.700]  Yes, anyway of the 450 or whatever the number is now. I don't remember it as 450 last. I thought 458
[30:25.940 --> 30:31.380]  It's in that ballpark. Yeah, so i'm just saying we when we when I talk about vaccines like my dad asked me
[30:31.380 --> 30:33.380]  Should I get by the way if I can interrupt for a second?
[30:33.780 --> 30:35.780]  Um
[30:36.000 --> 30:41.220]  74 million children. Yes. Okay. Well, I don't like the word children
[30:41.860 --> 30:45.860]  74 million people are under the age of 18 in this country. How's that 17 17 below?
[30:45.940 --> 30:49.780]  Yeah, 74 million that makes sense. Yeah, so anybody who's sitting at home can do the math
[30:50.340 --> 30:53.460]  All you have to do is take 450 and divide it by 74 million
[30:54.020 --> 30:57.940]  330 million us and then carry the decimal point two points to the right
[30:57.940 --> 30:59.060]  Right
[30:59.060 --> 31:04.100]  And then you will have the fraction of one percent. I mean, it's so small
[31:04.180 --> 31:09.940]  It's such a small number but those people didn't die from cover. They do die from their comorbidities. Yeah, so there's zero
[31:10.100 --> 31:16.340]  And honestly, you know if you were to suddenly if we could just wave our magic wand and vaccinate that 74 million
[31:17.220 --> 31:18.500]  um
[31:18.500 --> 31:20.500]  if
[31:20.580 --> 31:25.640]  Anyone without com comorbidities anyone even one dies of something like myocarditis
[31:25.880 --> 31:27.720]  Mm-hmm
[31:27.720 --> 31:30.440]  I know that the the companies cannot be sued at this point
[31:32.120 --> 31:33.160]  But
[31:33.160 --> 31:37.640]  They're just no excuse zero if it's just one child without a comorbidity, right?
[31:38.280 --> 31:40.200]  That's one child more
[31:40.200 --> 31:44.120]  That would have died without the vaccine. Well, and see that's what i'm saying is that if if we're not
[31:44.760 --> 31:50.760]  Treating people based on the risk group or risk factor or where they fit in the risk profile
[31:51.400 --> 31:53.800]  Then we are doing a disservice to society
[31:54.600 --> 31:59.640]  Like I constantly am describing risk and reward benefit to a patient
[31:59.720 --> 32:04.200]  So if a patient comes in and they've got chest pain and we do a stress test on the patient
[32:04.680 --> 32:11.720]  And they show positive stress test and they show the need for us to go look right. We now need to do an angio
[32:12.280 --> 32:18.120]  So I have to get an interventional cardiologist involved in a discussion about going in and doing an angio
[32:18.440 --> 32:20.440]  That's not a zero risk procedure
[32:20.440 --> 32:25.800]  It's a low risk procedure because there's so many of them done but it's not zero risk
[32:26.440 --> 32:29.400]  So I need to have this conversation with the patient and I need to say
[32:29.800 --> 32:35.000]  And so will the interventional cardiologist there will be multiple conversations before we just go stabbing them in the leg
[32:35.320 --> 32:40.120]  And running a wire up into their heart to see if they got a clot. Okay, we're not doing that
[32:40.280 --> 32:43.560]  We're going to have a conversation with this person, but it's based on risk
[32:44.840 --> 32:48.520]  So why can I not have the same conversation based on the vaccine?
[32:49.240 --> 32:50.200]  Yeah
[32:50.200 --> 32:53.240]  What it's risk based right? So if you're 75?
[32:54.120 --> 32:57.960]  Years old like my father came to me. He goes should I get the vaccine? I'm like, I don't know dad
[32:58.040 --> 33:02.520]  What do you think you're not around a lot of people? You don't go a lot of places. Does he have any comorbidities?
[33:02.840 --> 33:08.600]  He has he's obese, you know, but which is a big comorbidity in this disease process at his age
[33:08.680 --> 33:14.920]  But he 80% hospitalizations are obese, correct, but he doesn't have anything else like he he doesn't smoke
[33:15.240 --> 33:22.120]  He doesn't have lung cancer, he doesn't have diabetes he doesn't have like there's nothing else. Okay, so I told him I said look
[33:23.160 --> 33:25.880]  You'll probably benefit from it, but you don't have to get it. It's up to you
[33:26.040 --> 33:29.960]  Yeah, i'm not going to tell you to run out and get it because I think you're going to die from covid
[33:30.440 --> 33:32.440]  Right. I don't think that
[33:32.440 --> 33:37.560]  On the flip side. I'm not going to tell you to not get it. This is something you need to weigh for yourself
[33:37.560 --> 33:42.120]  I can't you know, I initially told him I probably wouldn't get it if I were you that was initially
[33:42.360 --> 33:47.000]  And then I told him later i'm like, yeah, maybe he could we'll see he ended up doing it
[33:47.000 --> 33:49.000]  He's fine. Whatever no big deal. Yeah
[33:49.240 --> 33:56.280]  The myocarditis thing scares the shit out of me though for kids because I have I have little kids my son is nine
[33:57.720 --> 33:59.960]  I'm not giving him this fucking vaccine
[34:00.760 --> 34:08.120]  I wouldn't he is six to ten times more likely to develop myocarditis if he receives this vaccine than if he doesn't
[34:08.440 --> 34:09.320]  Yeah
[34:09.320 --> 34:11.240]  and if he doesn't the
[34:11.240 --> 34:14.040]  Risk of myocarditis is like nil next to zero
[34:15.240 --> 34:20.520]  So granted the next to zero times ten is still next but it's ten times more
[34:20.840 --> 34:23.000]  Yeah, why put the risk there when he has?
[34:23.640 --> 34:29.720]  Zero risk of dying from covid exactly. Yeah, so I hear what you're saying that
[34:31.000 --> 34:36.920]  You think that your objection to the vaccine is more along the lines of it hasn't been tailored
[34:37.480 --> 34:41.160]  Um as policy it hasn't been tailored to the parties that
[34:41.720 --> 34:46.120]  Need it and there hasn't been early on it was early on it was like in the beginning
[34:46.120 --> 34:48.120]  It was like oh give it to all the old people
[34:48.120 --> 34:51.960]  Yeah, well because or the high risk people because it wasn't generally
[34:52.580 --> 34:59.480]  Available. Yes at every corner drugstore. So my objection to the vaccine my objection is the mandate period. But anyway, yeah
[34:59.480 --> 35:01.480]  Oh, well, that's that's that's a different stuff. Yeah
[35:02.360 --> 35:09.160]  I'm just speaking, you know as far as just looking at it as as you call it a therapeutic right using the name vaccine
[35:09.240 --> 35:10.360]  Yeah, right
[35:10.360 --> 35:12.780]  My objection is the lack of transparency
[35:13.320 --> 35:15.320]  from the pharmaceutical industry
[35:16.980 --> 35:24.600]  Industry from uh, the cdc from the national institutes of health from the white house and and i'm not i'm not making political statement with that
[35:25.080 --> 35:27.080]  um, it's just
[35:27.640 --> 35:31.720]  You know, we're supposed to be a nation, you know by and for the people
[35:33.240 --> 35:34.520]  and
[35:34.520 --> 35:35.160]  What's happening?
[35:35.160 --> 35:41.240]  Now is the people there is no transparency because the most important thing is not that the people be apprised of the facts
[35:41.400 --> 35:47.560]  The most important thing is that big pharma makes another 61 billion, right? You know, that's the important thing
[35:47.960 --> 35:53.640]  Uh, we've talked about we've covered you and I've covered a tremendous amount of ground today. Yes, and i'm going to guess
[35:54.280 --> 35:56.280]  that uh both
[35:56.520 --> 35:58.520]  Members of your audience and members of my audience
[35:59.160 --> 36:03.560]  Uh learned quite a bit today that they didn't previously know I would think so
[36:04.280 --> 36:07.480]  and they they should have been told this by
[36:08.440 --> 36:13.000]  If no one else public health officials not well, so really quick
[36:13.000 --> 36:17.720]  Let's talk about that for just a second because public health officials annoy the living shit out of me
[36:20.440 --> 36:24.920]  I'm with you public health officials have a degree in
[36:25.540 --> 36:27.000]  information
[36:27.000 --> 36:29.000]  gathering and information
[36:29.000 --> 36:31.000]  like delivery
[36:31.000 --> 36:33.720]  They've never fucking treated a patient ever. Yeah
[36:34.440 --> 36:41.560]  Not one that I can see public health official that's prominent during this whole covet epidemic including fauci
[36:42.900 --> 36:46.680]  Physically treated a patient in the last 40 years. Yeah
[36:47.560 --> 36:53.480]  So unless you sat in front of a bunch of people and had to explain to the patient one-on-one what they need and then
[36:53.480 --> 36:55.480]  Listen to them say no
[36:55.720 --> 37:02.120]  Or listen to them argue with you or listen to them debate you on why your ideology is correct
[37:02.200 --> 37:07.080]  Or why your method of treatment is better than their perception of what google fucking told them
[37:07.800 --> 37:10.680]  Then I don't think these people have a leg to stand on
[37:11.160 --> 37:17.640]  So they're creating policy based on a study of hundred people or a thousand people or whatever
[37:18.120 --> 37:20.120]  And they're creating it for everyone
[37:20.280 --> 37:22.040]  They haven't created it for
[37:22.040 --> 37:27.560]  individuals or looked at the differences between like okay, so nurses nurses for instance were
[37:28.120 --> 37:32.600]  The saviors of the world because they were working without a vaccine and they were taking care of covet patients
[37:33.000 --> 37:35.640]  Well, most of those nurses got fucking covet people
[37:36.440 --> 37:41.640]  They all got covet and they're sick and they got better and they went back to work and now they have prior infection immunity
[37:41.800 --> 37:48.680]  Prior infection some hospitals in fact asked the covet positive nurses who were feeling good enough to work
[37:49.080 --> 37:53.800]  To come back and work in the covet unit is israel was doing that early on. Yes
[37:54.600 --> 37:55.480]  So
[37:55.480 --> 38:01.080]  Wait a minute now. They're fucking evil because they won't get a vaccine. Oh, it should be terminated terminate them
[38:01.320 --> 38:03.720]  We're gonna fire them for not getting vaccinated
[38:04.200 --> 38:08.520]  Yeah, but it makes no sense and when we talk about public health officials, you're right
[38:08.600 --> 38:13.320]  that that's probably was not not a prudent use of a phrase on my part because they're the
[38:14.280 --> 38:19.400]  They come everywhere from you know, very high-end prestigious knowledgeable people like
[38:20.600 --> 38:27.160]  DeSantis just appointed joseph ladoppo. He's great dude. Yeah, super smart, but listen to the way he's speaking
[38:27.320 --> 38:33.400]  It's much more rational and it comes off as knowledgeable not as dictatorial. Absolutely
[38:33.480 --> 38:38.120]  That's a different conversation when someone comes at me in their dictatorial or their, you know, uh
[38:38.900 --> 38:42.440]  Grandiose in their guidelines because they don't really have an answer
[38:42.520 --> 38:46.440]  But they're going to yell at you louder till they give you until you accept their answer
[38:46.680 --> 38:52.360]  Or they're going to punish you or they're going to punish you. So that's not that's coercion. That's not me choosing
[38:52.680 --> 38:58.200]  Oh, you don't you don't get to go to dinner. You can't eat food at a restaurant. You can't go anywhere
[38:58.440 --> 39:04.360]  You can't do anything without a vaccine passport in new york. It's so bad in australia. Oh, I don't i'm scared for australia
[39:04.520 --> 39:06.520]  I'm really worried about them. I had a
[39:07.240 --> 39:09.320]  Somebody who follows my work who lives down there?
[39:10.120 --> 39:11.480]  Dropped me an email
[39:11.480 --> 39:13.480]  And asking me about vaccines. Yes
[39:13.720 --> 39:15.720]  He's he's struggling with the issue
[39:15.720 --> 39:20.840]  Whether stand on his principle and and his his issue was this he said the in his where he lives
[39:20.840 --> 39:22.840]  I forget which state he lives in
[39:23.000 --> 39:30.600]  He said the uh restrictions are so strict that he's allowed out of the house for just one hour a day to exercise
[39:30.680 --> 39:31.560]  Yeah
[39:31.560 --> 39:36.280]  He can't leave so many meters from his house. He right he has to be yeah within like half a mile or something
[39:36.680 --> 39:37.640]  um
[39:37.640 --> 39:39.640]  He can go to the grocery store
[39:40.200 --> 39:41.560]  And that's it
[39:41.560 --> 39:46.520]  He he can't do anything else and that's uh, that's supposed to be a free society. Oh, yes
[39:46.600 --> 39:51.800]  Yes, that's I mean I saw a video in the very beginning of the pandemic. He said he can't get his haircut
[39:52.280 --> 39:56.520]  Right. He's not allowed to go to a barbershop. That's just weird. Well, we weren't allowed to hear either. They shut him down
[39:56.600 --> 40:00.840]  Yeah, do you remember that? Yeah. Well, it wasn't almost two years into the deal though
[40:01.000 --> 40:05.480]  No, it was it wasn't it was last year. They shut down all the barbershops. You couldn't go get a haircut
[40:05.800 --> 40:10.360]  Yeah, I was still getting here. But we knew but we didn't know a guy who knew we didn't know anywhere near as much about
[40:10.680 --> 40:16.440]  SARS-CoV-2 as we do today, correct? So today if we shut them down that would just be draconian. Yeah, yes, tyrannical
[40:16.600 --> 40:21.320]  Yeah, which is what's going on but china china. They were welding people in their fucking houses
[40:21.480 --> 40:27.480]  Did you see that video? I did not they were physically welding steel doors to the steel jams
[40:27.640 --> 40:31.480]  Well, i'm glad that australia sees itself as being more chinese more more
[40:31.800 --> 40:34.760]  Yeah, just a bit more free than china a little slightly
[40:35.000 --> 40:39.880]  Well people were lowering their dogs from like six floor apartments with bed sheets tied to the dog's collar
[40:39.960 --> 40:44.200]  So he could pee and then lifting the dog back up into the apartment complex
[40:44.760 --> 40:46.760]  Because you couldn't get out of your apartment complex
[40:47.320 --> 40:48.760]  That's insane
[40:48.760 --> 40:51.880]  So when we say that this is a free society
[40:52.520 --> 40:58.200]  It's very concerning to me that we're no longer allowed to make decisions for ourselves and why
[40:58.760 --> 41:04.040]  Why do I not have to I mean don't get me wrong hospitals have had mandates for everything
[41:04.120 --> 41:10.200]  I have I have a list a laundry list of things. I have to prove that i've been vaccinated against
[41:11.240 --> 41:16.760]  Or I have to sign all these exceptions or sign all this stuff. I have to prove that i've had chicken pox
[41:16.760 --> 41:18.520]  So I have to go get it tighter
[41:18.600 --> 41:21.160]  Because I don't have a chicken pox vaccine i'm 45 years old
[41:21.400 --> 41:27.000]  I went to a party with an ugly girl that had chicken pox and my mom sent me down the road and to give me chicken pox
[41:27.000 --> 41:30.040]  That's what we did back in the 80s. We all got fucking chicken pox
[41:30.600 --> 41:33.640]  So i've recovered from chicken pox. I have to prove that I have enough
[41:34.180 --> 41:36.440]  Immunity to chicken pox. I don't have to get a vaccine
[41:37.320 --> 41:40.120]  We don't do that for covet just go get vaccinated. There's no
[41:40.680 --> 41:44.360]  Proof that you've even if you've had it, you can't go get it tighter that says
[41:44.760 --> 41:49.960]  Oh, look i've had covet and I have immunity. Yeah, the the establishment as you well know
[41:51.560 --> 41:56.200]  Has absolutely refused to consider prior infection immunity
[41:56.520 --> 42:00.680]  Yeah, which is the newest thing in the world despite all the data that it is dramatically
[42:01.400 --> 42:03.160]  more
[42:03.160 --> 42:05.160]  Impactive. Yeah
[42:05.160 --> 42:06.760]  And it is more durable
[42:06.760 --> 42:07.880]  Right. Okay
[42:07.880 --> 42:10.600]  This we could and we've talked about the memory t cells all right
[42:11.000 --> 42:16.920]  Um, despite that fact and I think if there's one thing that indicts the establishment that shows
[42:17.320 --> 42:19.320]  That they're all about the money and not about the health
[42:19.960 --> 42:25.320]  It's that there is absolutely no discussion about prior infection immunity. It's about get the jab or fuck you right
[42:25.640 --> 42:29.960]  Well, the problem is is that I think I told you this to be before the podcast started
[42:30.040 --> 42:32.040]  I think the average person
[42:32.040 --> 42:34.040]  had a very large
[42:34.280 --> 42:36.280]  view in a high respect for
[42:36.920 --> 42:39.000]  the cdc in a high respect
[42:39.560 --> 42:42.680]  For the nih prior to february prior
[42:45.000 --> 42:47.960]  I believe that that respect in that
[42:48.580 --> 42:52.680]  admiration and that feeling of knowledge that they possess has
[42:53.620 --> 42:55.320]  declined
[42:55.320 --> 42:57.080]  By the month. Yeah
[42:57.080 --> 43:01.480]  And every time they come out with some new dictatorial or new guidance
[43:02.280 --> 43:07.000]  That people who are thinking rationally about this are like no, that's not
[43:07.560 --> 43:09.560]  That's not normal. Why would we do that?
[43:10.440 --> 43:12.440]  my my joke the other day was
[43:12.760 --> 43:16.920]  If in the beginning of the pandemic if they said stick your thumb up your butt
[43:17.720 --> 43:21.880]  That'll save you from covet bury your thumb knuckle deep into your butt
[43:22.760 --> 43:25.960]  All the way up your butthole bury it in there. You're going to be safe from covet
[43:26.520 --> 43:31.240]  And half the people don't and half the people do and the people that do that don't get covet
[43:31.400 --> 43:35.560]  They're going to live their lives with their finger in their butt thinking that that's helping them
[43:35.560 --> 43:38.440]  Yeah, that's why they didn't that's why they didn't get covet because they stuck their thumb in their butt
[43:38.520 --> 43:42.760]  They're going to walk around with their hand buried in their butt when in reality it did nothing for them
[43:42.840 --> 43:45.640]  But if that's what the cdc had told them, yeah, they would have done it
[43:46.040 --> 43:51.560]  So there's a speaking of prior infection immunity. There is a video that's out there and I forget the legislator's name
[43:51.560 --> 43:53.560]  Which is really annoying me right now
[43:53.720 --> 43:55.720]  um, I know I hate to believe he's from
[43:56.020 --> 43:58.020]  Louisiana, um
[43:58.360 --> 44:03.800]  I think his first name is bill. I'm i'm my brain is putting this together very slowly. Um, and
[44:04.600 --> 44:09.960]  He was questioning, um cdc director walensky, okay, and
[44:11.080 --> 44:13.240]  He was specifically wanted to know
[44:14.200 --> 44:17.480]  Why prior infection immunity was not part of the equation?
[44:18.120 --> 44:20.120]  How dare you
[44:21.240 --> 44:24.760]  Um, you know even one of the board members of pfizer
[44:25.480 --> 44:31.080]  Went public and said prior infection immunity should be part of the discussion about whether or not be vaccinated
[44:32.040 --> 44:33.320]  Um
[44:33.320 --> 44:38.120]  and so this legislator was asking director walensky, um
[44:38.600 --> 44:44.200]  Why that wasn't part of the discussion? Yeah, and she was like, well, we don't have the data, which is of course absurd
[44:44.920 --> 44:46.680]  There are data funnel
[44:46.680 --> 44:51.320]  They're all they're all data. That's all they do is data. She might not have it in front of her
[44:51.400 --> 44:54.200]  She may not know the top of her head, but the data is available
[44:54.360 --> 44:56.360]  Yeah, and she wasn't saying I don't have that for you today
[44:56.440 --> 45:00.520]  She was saying I don't have it at all. We we don't have it right and
[45:01.080 --> 45:03.320]  Of course, she was trying to bs him but she couldn't because he's an md
[45:04.040 --> 45:06.680]  Okay, nice and and he was saying okay
[45:06.840 --> 45:08.840]  So it's like the ran paul fauci conversation
[45:09.080 --> 45:09.640]  Yeah
[45:09.640 --> 45:15.080]  And he was saying so you know if you have some concerns about doing this retrospectively do it prospectively because it won't take us
[45:15.080 --> 45:17.480]  Very long to get the the the data right?
[45:18.440 --> 45:21.960]  And she starts talking about well, you know, there's gonna there's gonna be bias
[45:22.520 --> 45:26.920]  And she she's probably threw out in answering around it. She probably threw out
[45:27.400 --> 45:32.280]  Research bias about like well we do that but that research would be biased you probably threw that out about three times
[45:32.840 --> 45:34.840]  Okay. So first of all, you know this
[45:35.240 --> 45:41.960]  There is no such thing as bias free research. You you try to reduce bias to the smallest possible extent
[45:42.280 --> 45:44.280]  But the world is a big place
[45:44.680 --> 45:46.680]  There are a lot of different factors involved
[45:47.240 --> 45:48.520]  um
[45:48.520 --> 45:50.040]  You can't control for all of them
[45:50.040 --> 45:56.120]  But people who do the research come in with a perceived bias to start the research. That's why they're doing it
[45:56.200 --> 45:57.720]  Yes, yes
[45:57.720 --> 46:02.840]  You come in with an opinion about how it's going to work and you're there to either prove your opinion right or wrong. Yeah
[46:03.480 --> 46:04.600]  um
[46:04.600 --> 46:09.800]  So she threw that out about three times and then I don't know if you hypothesis. I know you're a very busy guy
[46:10.760 --> 46:12.840]  But I I actually read
[46:13.720 --> 46:15.720]  um, i'm illiterate
[46:16.680 --> 46:18.840]  I actually read some of the um
[46:21.080 --> 46:23.320]  Studies the audience can't see that's in quotes
[46:24.280 --> 46:26.280]  Right that the cdc puts out, okay
[46:28.920 --> 46:34.280]  Their studies clearly I mean to use the word bias would be a gross understatement
[46:34.600 --> 46:36.600]  They clearly began
[46:36.600 --> 46:41.640]  With a conclusion that they were that was dictated to them by executives at cdc
[46:42.200 --> 46:46.680]  This is what we want the results to be because this is the messaging tailored it to fit
[46:46.680 --> 46:48.680]  This is the messaging we want the public to get
[46:49.240 --> 46:55.720]  And then the researchers went out and used the most absurd mechanisms that no valid researcher could respect
[46:56.600 --> 47:03.000]  In order to cook up headlines that say, you know a cdc research paper suggests blah blah blah blah or proves blah blah
[47:03.720 --> 47:08.360]  It's nonsense. So my point being this cdc is one of the most biased organizations
[47:09.320 --> 47:11.320]  At least in terms of sars-cov-2
[47:11.960 --> 47:17.480]  It is one of the most biased research organizations that i've come across in the last 22 months
[47:17.800 --> 47:23.960]  So for walensky to claim that they can't she that cdc can't do the research that the legislature was asking for
[47:24.520 --> 47:30.040]  Because of potential bias is is obviously nonsense. Uh cdc is incredibly biased
[47:31.000 --> 47:34.520]  So she just doesn't want to give him the data when I look at her
[47:36.280 --> 47:38.280]  Attempts at deflection
[47:38.280 --> 47:40.280]  um in in not
[47:40.520 --> 47:43.900]  Giving any even remotely credible answer to the legislator
[47:44.860 --> 47:47.900]  Uh and in his questions about prior infection immunity
[47:48.540 --> 47:50.060]  um
[47:50.060 --> 47:54.380]  It dovetails with what I believed for a long time, which is that cdc and nih
[47:55.400 --> 48:02.380]  Absolutely do not want to look at prior infection immunity because an objective analysis one that can be peer reviewed as an example, okay
[48:02.940 --> 48:04.780]  um and
[48:04.780 --> 48:07.740]  Objective analysis objective research would show
[48:08.380 --> 48:11.980]  as we've seen out of israel the prior infection immunity is
[48:12.520 --> 48:17.660]  Dramatically better and more durable than anything provided by the vaccines and that's before
[48:17.900 --> 48:21.580]  We get into a discussion about whether or not the vaccines activate protection about my t-cells
[48:22.060 --> 48:25.420]  We're just talking about neutralizing antibodies on their face, right? Yeah
[48:26.140 --> 48:31.340]  so the the uber basics we're not even getting into the functionality of it and then I've heard people say things like
[48:32.300 --> 48:34.460]  Well, it's a lot harder to prove
[48:34.860 --> 48:36.860]  Uh, if you've had sars-cov-2, okay
[48:36.860 --> 48:39.340]  So first of all how many people have had pcr testing?
[48:39.740 --> 48:44.460]  So the people who had pcr testing and came up positive they all they have to do is here's here's my thing from
[48:44.460 --> 48:47.340]  Ten months ago. I came out positive. I've had it. Yeah, um
[48:47.900 --> 48:50.220]  furthermore, um people like me who
[48:51.100 --> 48:54.380]  Didn't know that you have or haven't. Yeah, apparently it was asymptomatic. Um
[48:55.500 --> 48:57.500]  the government is spending
[48:58.220 --> 49:05.500]  At least billions if not trillions on the um on this whole event right the whole sars-cov-2 event
[49:06.140 --> 49:08.700]  It's been trillions because they gave out trillions the businesses so
[49:09.420 --> 49:13.980]  So if somebody wants to claim prior infection immunity, but they don't have any evidence of that
[49:14.060 --> 49:16.940]  The government can simply do what's doing everything else
[49:16.940 --> 49:21.180]  Which is paying for everything and pay for people to go to have that sars-cov-2 specific memory t-cell test
[49:21.340 --> 49:25.340]  Right that same one I paid for right so the government can pick up the tab for that
[49:25.740 --> 49:29.900]  Yeah, and and you check antibodies. Yeah, so when the results come back positive
[49:30.620 --> 49:35.500]  The companies that are doing the test they can give you an official government sanctioned
[49:36.380 --> 49:39.900]  Approval card or result card. So when you go to
[49:40.620 --> 49:43.440]  A concert or when you go to a restaurant in california
[49:46.780 --> 49:48.780]  You can present your
[49:48.780 --> 49:51.260]  Your prior infection immunity, but I think that's
[49:51.900 --> 49:52.700]  that
[49:52.700 --> 49:55.900]  Turns into oh i'm not to be wearing a yellow fucking star
[49:55.980 --> 50:00.940]  Yeah, i'm not saying I want to i'm not saying I think any of this is right no no, but it highlights that
[50:01.580 --> 50:05.580]  There's there's two ways to be immune and they're only considering one of the two
[50:06.300 --> 50:08.300]  It can be that could be a way for
[50:08.860 --> 50:11.020]  medical staff to prove immunity
[50:11.980 --> 50:13.980]  Without needing to get a vaccine
[50:13.980 --> 50:20.140]  Yeah, absolutely because don't get me wrong like they they ask for a ton of shit when you get approved to work in a facility
[50:20.300 --> 50:22.620]  I mean, I don't think the average person understands that
[50:23.020 --> 50:26.700]  Most nurses and doctors and nurse practitioners like myself or pa's or whoever
[50:27.420 --> 50:32.860]  Like we've been poked and prodded more than you want to believe just I mean almost like the military
[50:33.180 --> 50:33.980]  You go in the military
[50:33.980 --> 50:38.140]  They're just going to start poking you with a bunch of stuff when you go into the military going overseas for sure
[50:38.220 --> 50:38.940]  If you're going overseas
[50:38.940 --> 50:43.100]  You're going to have a bunch of vaccines and a whole bunch of different things that you never had before
[50:43.340 --> 50:46.300]  If you go to different continents, it's a whole new set each every time
[50:46.780 --> 50:49.020]  So that's the norm and when you're
[50:49.580 --> 50:50.700]  When you're in the u.s
[50:50.700 --> 50:55.340]  And you're going to work at a hospital or a long-term care facility to get credentialed
[50:55.340 --> 50:57.580]  They're going to say have you had this series of vaccines?
[50:58.060 --> 51:01.020]  Are you have you ever had tb? We need to have a t like
[51:01.640 --> 51:03.640]  Annually, I have to get a tb test
[51:03.900 --> 51:05.900]  See if i've been exposed to tuberculosis
[51:06.540 --> 51:10.380]  Every year, right? I had a quantifier and blood test because I hate the two-step
[51:11.020 --> 51:13.020]  Two-step you got to go there twice
[51:13.340 --> 51:16.620]  I'm busy. I got shit to do i'll get a blood test and five days later
[51:16.620 --> 51:18.860]  They'll tell me if i've never been exposed or whatever
[51:19.340 --> 51:20.860]  So I have to do this
[51:20.860 --> 51:22.700]  I have to go get a flu vaccine
[51:22.700 --> 51:25.100]  They make you get a flu vaccine because if you don't get a flu vaccine
[51:25.340 --> 51:26.860]  You have to wear a mask all the time
[51:26.860 --> 51:29.420]  Which is ironic because everyone's wearing a mask anyway, so you don't need it
[51:29.420 --> 51:33.740]  But it's easier just to get it and shut up and not worry about it. I've said that for years
[51:34.620 --> 51:40.220]  And the average person that goes to the hospital is fine. What we're pissed off about is the the mandate
[51:41.100 --> 51:44.380]  Being only one only one way
[51:44.860 --> 51:49.580]  It's only the vaccine. That's it. And then we know that the vaccine wanes. We know that it doesn't work
[51:49.660 --> 51:55.420]  We know that people still get sick. They call it breakthrough infection. Well, bullshit. It's not breakthrough
[51:56.140 --> 51:58.780]  It's not breakthrough. It just didn't fucking work. Yeah
[51:59.740 --> 52:02.060]  And we talked about this a little bit before we started the show
[52:02.060 --> 52:05.580]  there's other questions when we talk about these memory t cells such as
[52:08.060 --> 52:09.180]  Does
[52:09.180 --> 52:14.700]  The partial signature that's that's garnered from just the s protein spike
[52:16.140 --> 52:17.900]  Does it
[52:17.900 --> 52:19.900]  in some way impair
[52:20.460 --> 52:21.420]  the
[52:21.420 --> 52:24.380]  Immune process from creating memory t cells
[52:24.940 --> 52:26.600]  upon
[52:26.600 --> 52:31.740]  Post-vaccination infection by the wild virus. Oh, right. So if you've been vaccinated then you get sick
[52:32.140 --> 52:36.540]  Will you develop memory t cells now, by the way all these questions that I post such as this
[52:36.940 --> 52:38.940]  Uh, the other question is
[52:39.020 --> 52:41.020]  um if you
[52:41.480 --> 52:47.680]  Originally were infected with the wild virus your body created memory t cells and then you get vaccinated
[52:47.980 --> 52:54.940]  Does it somehow inhibit or stop or slow down or yeah. Yeah the response right so affected function of there's yeah
[52:55.020 --> 52:57.020]  There's all sorts of questions. Yes
[52:57.900 --> 53:00.460]  There's not being either researched or answered as far as I know
[53:00.780 --> 53:04.140]  Well, here's the thing the might be being researched. I just don't know that it's being done. Yeah
[53:05.100 --> 53:07.100]  We talked about the
[53:07.640 --> 53:09.640]  MHC2 peptide
[53:10.540 --> 53:15.740]  tetramarket staining technology that actually identifies the
[53:17.420 --> 53:22.220]  The peptide complexes within the memory t cells, there's no way to find a memory t cell, right?
[53:22.540 --> 53:26.780]  but post infection if you're looking for the
[53:27.500 --> 53:32.540]  The peptide complexes the only place you'll find them. The only place are stored is in memory t cells
[53:32.540 --> 53:36.460]  So if you find them, they're in the memory, you know, there are memory t cells, right?
[53:36.620 --> 53:39.420]  That's why they call they use the tetramarket staining technology. So
[53:40.380 --> 53:47.180]  My point is that these things are not difficult to ascertain and cdc and nih has all the data in the world
[53:47.580 --> 53:52.060]  So if they're not looking at these questions, it's because in my opinion if they're not looking at these questions
[53:52.060 --> 53:55.580]  Which they're not is because they don't want the answers or because informally
[53:56.140 --> 54:01.660]  In closed meetings, they already have the answers, right? So just to announce publicly we're looking at this issue
[54:02.380 --> 54:03.660]  um
[54:03.660 --> 54:08.380]  Then they'd have to come up with an answer and then they'd have to provide the science and then people could could
[54:09.020 --> 54:11.820]  Determine whether the science is credible. They don't even want to go there, right?
[54:11.980 --> 54:16.140]  Uh, one of the things I saw a headline the other day that said that the national institutes of health is initiating
[54:16.700 --> 54:21.980]  uh a study to see the long-term effects of covet 19 on
[54:22.780 --> 54:24.780]  women who are pregnant, okay
[54:25.340 --> 54:27.340]  But guess what they're not doing
[54:27.340 --> 54:31.180]  There's no study on the long-term effects to a pregnant woman who's vaccinated
[54:32.620 --> 54:35.820]  It's only to a woman who actually got infected by the wild virus
[54:36.620 --> 54:42.860]  So it's like there's women who don't want to get vaccinated because I understand that they don't want to negatively or potentially negatively affect their pregnancy
[54:43.000 --> 54:47.980]  Absolutely. It's already everything's at risk anyway, and we don't know and we don't know so they don't want to get it
[54:48.140 --> 54:52.300]  And then they're being they're losing their jobs. There are no long-term studies. I mean that that's another
[54:52.860 --> 55:00.540]  In my in my opinion criminal aspect of these mandates. There are no long-term studies. Would you hear what the cdc, uh,
[55:01.180 --> 55:03.180]  Well, there's a group of bunch of
[55:03.340 --> 55:08.140]  Although there's two hundred and forty seven million americans who are now participating in a long-term study. Correct
[55:08.780 --> 55:12.620]  We don't have any long-term studies. We don't have any long-term studies. Well, they started it
[55:13.340 --> 55:15.340]  We haven't completed it. Yeah
[55:15.500 --> 55:17.500]  um, but the one one of the
[55:18.380 --> 55:24.940]  The groups of people who are giving guidance on kids getting vaccinated said well, we won't know until we give the vaccine
[55:25.420 --> 55:27.900]  Oh, that's what they said in an open forum
[55:28.860 --> 55:34.860]  Which is true yet scary at the same time and that's the entire I think that's a
[55:36.540 --> 55:39.820]  Great way to that statement, which was insane
[55:41.580 --> 55:48.460]  Speaks to the entire mindset of these mrna vaccines since since somebody said oh
[55:49.100 --> 55:50.540]  a pandemic
[55:50.540 --> 55:56.220]  Well, there was a thousand I think was eleven hundred and forty seven. That's numbers weird. That's why it stuck in my head
[55:56.940 --> 56:00.780]  Kids who were initially enrolled in the initial trials with
[56:01.820 --> 56:03.820]  Pfizer eleven forty seven
[56:04.780 --> 56:09.020]  But none of those kids had any comorbidities. Yeah, none of those kids
[56:09.980 --> 56:14.300]  Had any other issues? I mean it was like they were perfectly healthy children
[56:15.020 --> 56:21.100]  Enrolled in the study. Have you seen the pfizer commercial to encourage children to get vaccinated the one that they just did for
[56:21.420 --> 56:23.580]  Superheroes, I didn't see the superhero one
[56:23.580 --> 56:27.580]  But I know that bugs but not bugs bunny, uh, the big bird just on sesame street
[56:27.580 --> 56:32.620]  Just got his vaccine and the president and everybody was like congratulating him on his vaccine
[56:32.860 --> 56:36.460]  I'll tell you the big bird tweeted his arm was a little sore. They've got these kids
[56:36.940 --> 56:41.580]  Trying to convince other kids that getting vaccinated makes them superheroes. Jesus christ
[56:42.540 --> 56:46.140]  So who's the first to jump off a building? Yeah, so, you know, i'm non-religious, right?
[56:46.700 --> 56:47.900]  and
[56:47.900 --> 56:49.900]  Hitchens who was one of the great all-time
[56:51.160 --> 56:53.160]  Expositors on atheism
[56:54.460 --> 56:57.900]  He said that we'd have an entirely different world if
[56:58.600 --> 57:03.660]  Children were not presented with any religious concepts until they had reached the age of reason
[57:05.180 --> 57:09.820]  That's how I see this pfizer commercial. Okay, you you've got like eight-year-olds
[57:10.860 --> 57:16.320]  Putting peer pressure on other eight-year-olds. Yeah and telling them you will become a superhero
[57:17.340 --> 57:22.540]  If you get this shot, that's just insane for which no long-term studies exist and
[57:23.180 --> 57:29.900]  Concerning something that will never harm you if you are committed comorbidity free it will never harm you
[57:31.180 --> 57:34.060]  That's it's sickening to me because they're not supposed to market the kids
[57:34.140 --> 57:35.660]  They're not supposed to market anything the kids yet
[57:35.660 --> 57:40.940]  This is being marketed to kids as if it's tic tacs and shit. You can't even market cigarettes to adults. I know
[57:42.060 --> 57:43.180]  right
[57:43.180 --> 57:47.260]  There's no more marlboro man. There's no more joe camel none of that's available
[57:47.260 --> 57:54.780]  But you can you can market to children something that has no long-term studies and and could potentially cause them more problems
[57:54.940 --> 58:02.060]  Yes. Yes has been shown in numerous studies to cause more problems. My theory on the whole myocarditis thing
[58:02.700 --> 58:04.300]  is that
[58:04.300 --> 58:08.400]  It's because of the way it's being injected. This is my complete hypothesis
[58:09.180 --> 58:11.180]  But if they're injecting
[58:11.180 --> 58:18.460]  Muscularly there's always a vasculature through the muscle in some form. They're not aspirated. They're not aspirating
[58:18.540 --> 58:22.140]  So my fear is that because they haven't aspirated the needle
[58:22.860 --> 58:26.460]  They're just poking in and jabbing because that changed in the last five years
[58:26.460 --> 58:31.340]  It used to be you aspirate every time and that's old school dudes and female nurses
[58:31.660 --> 58:37.580]  We ask we still do it. We still aspirate but the new crop is not because they're not taught that way
[58:38.540 --> 58:39.740]  So
[58:39.740 --> 58:45.900]  Job and push right? So if you push into a vessel be it an artery or a vein
[58:47.100 --> 58:51.820]  I think that's where the myocarditis is coming from. Absolutely. And there's evidence of that. There's a
[58:52.700 --> 58:54.700]  Retired md out of the uk. Okay
[58:55.660 --> 58:57.980]  He's he's pretty much an establishment wonk
[58:59.340 --> 59:04.140]  But every once in a while, I mean there there are things the establishment says rarely that are that are factually accurate
[59:04.220 --> 59:09.260]  Right and and one of them is the aspiration issue and there's a study. I forget he talked about it
[59:09.260 --> 59:13.180]  I've but I received so much data. You people say yeah all the time
[59:13.660 --> 59:18.780]  Um, I feel like i'm reading 20 studies a day. I know that's an exaggeration, but that's how I feel and
[59:19.180 --> 59:25.180]  Uh, there was actually a study done where they tracked down where they were finding the spike proteins
[59:25.820 --> 59:30.060]  Okay, because right it's supposed to have adhesion. Yes. Yes, it's supposed to stay where you put it. Yes
[59:30.460 --> 59:33.500]  Um, but they actually proved
[59:34.460 --> 59:41.180]  That it's moving by intentional not not in humans intentionally injecting the mrna vaccine
[59:43.000 --> 59:50.080]  Intravenously random mice models or whatever. Yeah, they actually found the spike proteins in all the organs and massive inflammation
[59:50.540 --> 59:54.140]  So yes, you're absolutely spot on when there's no last when they don't aspirate
[59:54.860 --> 01:00:00.700]  Um, and if it as you say, I mean we know that's a rare occurrence correct if you take a look at a thousand
[01:00:01.100 --> 01:00:03.500]  Intimuscular injections who knows how many?
[01:00:04.220 --> 01:00:08.940]  Ten maybe let's call it ten. But yes round numbers, but yes, that's where the spike proteins
[01:00:09.660 --> 01:00:15.500]  Get loose. There's no adhesion. Right. They're now in the red blood cells. Correct floating around the whole body. Yeah
[01:00:17.020 --> 01:00:19.980]  Ready to inflame and inferior any potential
[01:00:20.700 --> 01:00:25.500]  Organ that it comes in contact with and the heart just because of the ace two response
[01:00:25.980 --> 01:00:31.100]  It's going to affect the lungs in the heart. Yeah, because that's where the ace two receptors are sitting
[01:00:31.900 --> 01:00:35.740]  And you know the funny thing about myocarditis is as you well know being in the cardiology field
[01:00:36.700 --> 01:00:40.460]  It's very common. It just it in anybody who has a viral infection
[01:00:41.020 --> 01:00:45.900]  But normally it's so minor the person never even realizes they have it in the six weeks. It's gone
[01:00:46.140 --> 01:00:49.820]  Correct. So but the the kind of myocarditis we're seeing today
[01:00:50.620 --> 01:00:57.500]  Is something entirely different? The other thing that concerns me is that we're injecting young people between the ages of 18 and 40
[01:00:58.780 --> 01:01:00.700]  And they're dying
[01:01:00.700 --> 01:01:03.660]  When they're under high levels of physical stress
[01:01:05.020 --> 01:01:10.060]  Yes, that's soccer players. Yeah, there's something going on players. Something's going on
[01:01:10.540 --> 01:01:12.780]  There's a high level of physical exertion
[01:01:13.640 --> 01:01:19.580]  Associated because they're not dying at home. They're dying on the fucking fields. Yes, the soccer fields while they're playing they're dying
[01:01:19.580 --> 01:01:23.980]  They're getting sick and dying after their heart rates, you know exceeded their norm
[01:01:24.140 --> 01:01:30.220]  Which is a whole new form of myocarditis in a sense, right exactly. So why is that happening?
[01:01:30.460 --> 01:01:36.700]  Because generally no one dies. Yeah, those young people are healthy. They're exercising. They're eating well
[01:01:36.940 --> 01:01:41.660]  They're doing all the things they need to do. They're professional athletes and boom and then they're dead
[01:01:41.900 --> 01:01:47.100]  And when one person dies, we're like, oh that's sad when two people die. We're like holy cow. That's crazy
[01:01:47.500 --> 01:01:52.620]  When you got three four or five of them something's going on something's happening. That's not normal
[01:01:52.700 --> 01:01:55.820]  That's an abnormal change and what's the change?
[01:01:56.620 --> 01:02:03.020]  Like you and I have talked about food numerous times and how it's negative the ancel keys reference people should understand ancel keys ruined
[01:02:03.420 --> 01:02:05.100]  the world because he thought
[01:02:05.100 --> 01:02:07.820]  Sugar was good for you. But anyway in the world right on he did
[01:02:09.020 --> 01:02:12.220]  So because if you look back at pictures of the 70s and 80s at the beach
[01:02:12.300 --> 01:02:16.700]  Everyone was thin and you look there now and they're all fat. So whatever i'm saying that
[01:02:17.420 --> 01:02:19.420]  This could be ruining
[01:02:20.220 --> 01:02:25.500]  People in that age group that don't necessarily need the vaccine, right? It's putting them at high risk
[01:02:25.580 --> 01:02:31.260]  But we haven't studied the effects of high levels of physical stress. No on people
[01:02:31.660 --> 01:02:36.140]  So why are they dying and traditional myocarditis let's say in an 18 year old
[01:02:36.540 --> 01:02:39.500]  That's the one change across the board is everyone's getting the vaccine
[01:02:39.820 --> 01:02:43.900]  Yeah, so the typical myocarditis that existed prior to mrna vaccines
[01:02:44.300 --> 01:02:48.140]  Uh, you'd get a virus there would be some heart inflammation usually very minor
[01:02:48.380 --> 01:02:53.180]  But even if they had a modest case of myocarditis not not a slight but a modest case
[01:02:53.580 --> 01:02:57.260]  Um, they would be a little short of breath. They'd be they'd have a little energy issue
[01:02:57.740 --> 01:03:01.340]  Um, and so the doctor would say well take it easy for another four weeks, you know
[01:03:03.660 --> 01:03:08.300]  But so there was there was sort of that governor in place and that they didn't feel right, correct
[01:03:08.300 --> 01:03:12.700]  Okay, so but you're right with what's going on now with the mrna vaccines
[01:03:13.100 --> 01:03:19.180]  They seem to feel fine until the moment they drop dead, right, which is not the myocarditis. We've known
[01:03:19.660 --> 01:03:26.460]  There was a there's a young man was infected not because of the vaccine. This was prior to covid in the hospital young guy. He was
[01:03:27.420 --> 01:03:29.420]  cat scratch fever the straight up
[01:03:29.980 --> 01:03:31.740]  song he got
[01:03:31.740 --> 01:03:33.260]  Scratched by a cat
[01:03:33.260 --> 01:03:35.920]  He got really sick developed severe myocarditis
[01:03:36.620 --> 01:03:40.060]  We had to life flight him out to a heart transplant center. Wow
[01:03:40.620 --> 01:03:43.500]  Because he could not like we could barely keep him going
[01:03:44.060 --> 01:03:48.460]  He needed a transplant because of the infection was so bad. So i'm not saying that it's not
[01:03:49.020 --> 01:03:51.020]  Happening or didn't happen
[01:03:51.020 --> 01:03:53.180]  Prior to the vaccine it just happened differently
[01:03:53.740 --> 01:03:55.740]  Happened differently and it happened
[01:03:55.980 --> 01:04:02.780]  You know generally it happened rarely very rarely. Yeah this serious myocarditis is like incredibly rare
[01:04:03.420 --> 01:04:10.300]  Prior to mrna vaccines, correct this even though let's say five people has happened to with the mrna vaccine
[01:04:11.020 --> 01:04:14.540]  And it only happened to one person you're gonna say. Oh, well, it's only five. Well, that's a
[01:04:15.240 --> 01:04:18.940]  500% leap. Yes percentage wise it's a lot
[01:04:19.260 --> 01:04:24.460]  Yeah, and we should be looking at it from that perspective not that it's five out of a million people or whatever i'm saying
[01:04:24.460 --> 01:04:27.500]  It's or five out of 75 million people i'm saying it's
[01:04:28.300 --> 01:04:32.300]  One to five like that's a big leap. Yeah, 500 jump. Yeah
[01:04:32.620 --> 01:04:34.300]  I mean if it was
[01:04:34.300 --> 01:04:40.140]  If we go back to the percentages if it was a hundred people and now it's five thousand people or whatever
[01:04:40.460 --> 01:04:43.180]  You're talking a big jump, you know, yeah, so
[01:04:43.820 --> 01:04:45.820]  society needs to realize that we're
[01:04:46.540 --> 01:04:51.100]  We're in a problem. We have a problem here that we're not investigating that we're just dismissing as
[01:04:51.580 --> 01:04:53.820]  Oh, it's just weird. This is weird
[01:04:54.620 --> 01:04:57.340]  Anything and we've covered a lot of question marks here today
[01:04:57.980 --> 01:04:59.980]  anything that might
[01:05:00.780 --> 01:05:02.860]  Tend to the results of which
[01:05:03.740 --> 01:05:09.020]  Any research which the results of which might tend to cause people to disfavor vaccination?
[01:05:09.820 --> 01:05:14.300]  The research is not being done. How grossly irresponsible that we want the fucking money
[01:05:14.540 --> 01:05:19.820]  So we're not going to do this research until all of you until after you've all gotten the jab, right?
[01:05:20.060 --> 01:05:22.060]  I think the tuskegee airman could probably
[01:05:25.660 --> 01:05:27.660]  Throwing it out there as a potential
[01:05:28.220 --> 01:05:32.780]  Just insane well, thanks for talking with me today dave it's yeah, we have beat this to death
[01:05:32.940 --> 01:05:38.460]  I love it though. Yeah, because we finally got a chance to chat man. We never do that. So that's good. That's great
[01:05:38.540 --> 01:05:43.660]  I mean, all right. Yeah, just the opportunity to sit and chat with you long term right that often enough
[01:05:44.140 --> 01:05:49.900]  so if anyone needs to get a hold of me, you can reach me at medically unbiased.com you can email me and
[01:05:51.420 --> 01:05:55.580]  Chat later and if dave how do they reach you? Okay, so you can always go to
[01:05:55.900 --> 01:06:02.220]  Doctorreality.news, which is drreality.news. You can contact me there. You can look at my books there
[01:06:02.700 --> 01:06:06.300]  Um, if you want to go directly to my email, it's dave at doctorreality.news.com
[01:06:11.020 --> 01:06:16.460]  Okay, so reality.news and if you want to go directly to me it's dave at doctorreality.news.
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